Body for Life Forums Posts for Jan 11, 2006: 534 Messages

General Health & Fitness: General Fitness and Diet Discussion

Thread: I gained 7 pounds in a month... (164 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by elaine_kime (7 posts) at 11:55 PM:
OK I HAVE QUESTION IM DOIGN BFL NOW FR 7 WEEKS ALREADY 1ST CHALLENGE AND SCALE IS NOT DROPPING MUCH AT AL BUT INCHES ARE BUT I FEEL BLOATED AND FAT :( I WORK SO HARD AT WHAT I DO CONTINUOUSLY FOR 7 DAYS WEEK EVEN AND EAT HEALTHY . FOODS AND ALL .IS THIS WATER RETENTION CAUSEIGN THE SCALE NOT TO DROP MUCH AT ALL .. AND ANYONE KNOW HOW LONG WILL TAKE BEFORE I GET A BIG DROP IN WEIGHT AND ALL .IS IT WHEN IM MOSTLY MUSCLE?

Thread: Reduction in Triglycerides? (88 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 04:11 PM:
Hey thanks a bunch...I cant wait to see the after labs!

Thread: HOODIA???? what???? how???? when????WHY? (208 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 07:46 AM:
Hoodia patches? Sounds like another example of folks looking for a magic bullet. Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 06:58 PM:
Yeah, I'll stick with eating every 2 1/2 hours as my appetite suppressant. :)

Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (82 posts) at 07:09 PM:
Eating rocks.

Body for Life Forum Message by Evielee (69 posts) at 07:17 PM:
Everything you needed to know and more about Hoodia: What is it and where does it come from? Hoodia Gordonii (Asclepiadaceae) looks like a cactus, but is actually a milkweed-like plant that grows in Botswana and the Kalahari Desert in Southwestern Africa. It was just introduced to the US market in early 2004. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this? Hoodia Gordonii has been used by the South African San tribe for thousands of years. The San used this plant when they went hunting. Hoodia helped to prolong hunting trips by suppressing hunger, increasing energy levels and even improving libido! Modern science has shed light on how Hoodia functions. [ Top 5 Sellers ] 1. NOW Mega Hoodia 2. German American Technologies Jetfuel 3. Higher Power Hoodia 500 4. Xyience XFB AM 5. Nutrabolics Inferno It is believed that Hoodia sends signals to the brain that make the brain believe that the body is full, even when it is not. These signals are believed to be thousands of times stronger than the signals that sugar sends to the brain for the same reason. This makes Hoodia a very powerful appetite suppressant, and a very effective weight loss product. For this reason it is included in many over-the-counter dietary weight loss supplements. A molecule in Hoodia, P57, is believed to be responsible for Hoodias' ability to suppress appetite, increase energy levels, and help with weight loss. Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency? Those who wish to suppress appetite, increase energy levels and lose weight can benefit greatly from using Hoodia as a nutritional supplement. When used in conjunction with a healthy eating plan and exercise, Hoodia can help to bring about massive changes in body composition, and can greatly improve a persons health. The hardest part about losing weight are the cravings. Lets face it: we all have foods that we love but that we know aren't that great for us. We know that some foods are fattening, but when the cravings come, what are we to do? Many of us give in. Hoodia can help stop the cravings. This will help you stay strong and on the course to success! How much should be taken? Are there any side effects? It is important to strictly adhere to label recommendations. Scientific data on Hoodia Gordonii is still emerging, and Hoodia may not be for everyone. Persons considering Hoodia Gordonii supplementation should consult with their physician before making any changes to their health care plans. Republished from Clayton South's Health Facts.

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 07:27 PM:
Hmmmm... cravings and appetite are two very different things. I'm not overweight because I'm hungry... I'm overweight because I like to eat! :)

Thread: MY LEGS HURT (42 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by missylab (15 posts) at 08:26 AM: MY LEGS HURT
My legs are very sore from doing the lbwo this week. Sore enough that I am worried that I will do damage on the next lbwo, or is this how it's supposed to be? If it is I guess I doing what I am supposed to do!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (274 posts) at 08:31 AM:
dont worry, thats a good sign! it wont be as bad as you progress. good luck!

Body for Life Forum Message by 4sweetums (8 posts) at 08:33 AM:
my first lbwo was last week and my legs were SOOOOO sore the whole weekend. I seriously looked like I was crippled. Monday night I did legs again and even added weights to the workout and I felt 100% stronger. I am not near as sore this time around...I think it is normal. Your body is getting used to the new routine :0)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:56 PM:
I've been working out a while now and I can tell you that I don't think I have EVER gotten my legs as sore as they are now from my LBWO on Monday! I think its a good thing! It means I changed up my routine and it worked! Just when those suckers thought they got it all figured out and wouldn't hurt anymore I hit them with a 1-2 and got 'em good!

Thread: whats after 12 weeks? (60 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by hogken (19 posts) at 08:46 AM: whats after 12 weeks?
i read so many people that are starting their new challanges after having done it before, Is there a program that lets you stabalize after 12 weeks? I dont want to continue getting bigger and bigger! Once I reach my level of fitness I just want to keep it. Any thoughts or answers?

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 04:32 PM:
To get "bigger and bigger" you have to train for that and train good and hard. Its doubtful that anyone who does not want that to happen will end up looking like Arnold. Most of us wish that would happen but wishing for it and working for it STILL doesn't necessarily make it happen very quickly.

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 06:55 PM:
You're not going to get bigger and bigger. You might get stronger, though. At any rate, you just adjust your training and eating to maintain rather than to build muscle and/or burn fat. For me, what's after 12 weeks is another 12 weeks, lol.

Thread: Splenda (193 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 11:13 AM: Splenda
I just read something that scared me to death. "This months Scoop: Splend-Aid!" OMG! This is suggesting that everyone try using Splenda Brand Sweetener. I have to raise a red flag here and post some information about Splenda/Sucralose for everyone to read. Please take the time and read what is written here. After you have read the information, it will be up to you to choose whether or not you want to consume this product. All I can do is offer you the information. As for me and my family, we will stay away from this product. Here is the information: As Dr. Janet Hull writes in her July newsletter, eating sucralose--brand name Splenda--is like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides. If this sounds unappealing to you, it certainly doesn't to Splenda's marketing team, who say they've "done a great job of redefining sweetness." Splenda, which was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1988 as a tabletop sweetener and sweetener for an array of other products, is a chlorocarbon. Chlorocarbons are known to cause organ, genetic and reproductive damage, which may explain why Splenda has been found to shrink the thymus gland--a foundation of the immune system--by 40 percent. According to Dr. Hull, sucralose also causes: Swelling of the liver and kidneys Calcification of the kidney Fertility issues in male rats Gastrointestinal problems in pregnant rats It is especially important to stop using Splenda immediately if you experience kidney pain, cramping, swelling, an irritated bladder, or blood in your urine, she says. It is also interesting to note the information taken directly from a statement from the manufacturer of Splenda: 'Sucralose is made from sugar, but is derived from sucrose (sugar) through a process that selectively substitutes three atoms of chlorine for three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sucrose molecule. No artificial sweetener made in the laboratory is going to be neither natural to the body nor safer than unprocessed sugar.' Splenda is approximately 600 times sweeter than sugar, but the sweetness is forced, not like a natural sugar the body uses for fuel, says Dr. Hull. And although corporations say Splenda is safe, they have said the same thing about aspartame, which is now linked to disease and obesity. They also claim that the chlorine atoms in Splenda are altered and therefore safe, yet it's known that any animal that eats chlorine (especially on a regular basis) is at risk of cancer. The corporate researchers go on further to say that sucralose is the most tested food additive in history. They stated, verbatim, the same thing about aspartame and, according to Dr. Hull, consumers are witnessing the same state of affairs in many ways.

Body for Life Forum Message by 4sweetums (8 posts) at 11:46 AM:
I have always heard negative things about aspartame, but had no idea these thought/claims carried over to Splenda. I always wondered when something would come out about Splenda. I use Splenda in everything!! I don't use it in large amounts by any means...just what the recipes call for in the EFL book. I am just curious...what do you use for an artifical sweetner, or do you use anything at all?

Body for Life Forum Message by Robin78745 (29 posts) at 12:02 PM:
Hey MomofThree, Thats scary! Where can I find Dr. Hull's website? Thanks1 Robin

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 01:44 PM:
Well....I gotta die of something. The fact is that no matter what the additive, you'll find someone to tell you how horrible it is. Kind of lets me know how Chicken Little's friends felt. I'll worry about it when I see something in mainstream press, rather than from just one physician. Not saying she's wrong, just that I can find a doctor for any position out there. I just want more. Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by rainy (54 posts) at 03:31 PM:
" . . .yet it's known that any animal that eats chlorine (especially on a regular basis) is at risk of cancer. " Question: Isn't water chlorinated? Cuz I know I ingest a lot more of that than I do Splenda.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 03:41 PM:
There was something on this a long time ago and it was basically that they took something way out of context and turned it into this report. I would not worry to much about it. If you are worried about it you can use Stevia instead. Which is from a plant and found in the herbal sections & health food stores. Personally Stevia gives me terrible headaches. I prefer Splenda. Much better than the large amounts of sugar I used to crave & eat with a vengeance. You have to also take into consideration the amount you would have to consume daily for those side effects to possibly happen. If they do? Also Splenda is made from sugar it is the method & process of getting it that everyone went crazy about.

Body for Life Forum Message by KauaiBound (171 posts) at 03:42 PM:
I had a coworker tell me how bad a packet of Splenda was while he added at least 6 packets of sugar to his coffee. Just thought it was funny. Linn

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 03:46 PM:
I guess that ol' saying "everything in moderation".

Body for Life Forum Message by nurse36 (205 posts) at 04:24 PM:
I'm skeptical. This Splenda thing is news to me, but if anyone wants to check this out... http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm# I DID notice that everyone who has a beef with Splenda... ALSO has a book related to the topic. I wasn't really able to find much credentialing on these authors.

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 04:51 PM: Re:
4sweetums said: I have always heard negative things about aspartame, but had no idea these thought/claims carried over to Splenda. I always wondered when something would come out about Splenda. I use Splenda in everything!! I don't use it in large amounts by any means...just what the recipes call for in the EFL book. I am just curious...what do you use for an artifical sweetner, or do you use anything at all? I actually don't use artificial ANYTHING in my diet. It took a while to get rid of the sweet tooth, but once you get used to eating foods without the sugary taste it's no big deal. Not to mention that it's way healthier for you to avoid PROCESSED sugars as well as ARTIFICIAL sweeteners at all times. I recommend using Stevia if you absolutely need a sweetener. You can purchase Stevia at your local health food store. Some health food stores will even let you taste it before you buy it!

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 04:54 PM: Re:
Robin78745 said: Hey MomofThree, Thats scary! Where can I find Dr. Hull's website? Thanks1 Robin I am not sure where you can find Dr. Hull's website. I found her quoted on Dr. Mercola's website. www.mercola.com . He has all kinds of information about Splenda/Sucrose on there. Just type Splenda into the google serch bar on his site and you will have plenty of information there to read. I believe somewhere on his site you can link to Dr. Hull's site as well. I hope this helps!

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 04:55 PM: Re:
rainy said: " . . .yet it's known that any animal that eats chlorine (especially on a regular basis) is at risk of cancer. " Question: Isn't water chlorinated? Cuz I know I ingest a lot more of that than I do Splenda. You are correct. Water is chlorinated and that is why it is suggested that you dring bottled water and/or filter your water before drinking it. Chlorine is HORRIBLE on a person's body.

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 04:57 PM: Re:
T~N~T said: Also Splenda is made from sugar it is the method & process of getting it that everyone went crazy about. It is also interesting to note the information taken directly from a statement from the manufacturer of Splenda: 'Sucralose is made from sugar, but is derived from sucrose (sugar) through a process that selectively substitutes three atoms of chlorine for three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sucrose molecule. No artificial sweetener made in the laboratory is going to be neither natural to the body nor safer than unprocessed sugar.'

Body for Life Forum Message by MomOfThree (10 posts) at 05:04 PM:
I just wanted to give people a "heads up" so that they could make an informed choice as to whether or not they wanted to start using or continue using Splenda. I wish you all well. Here's to your health and a better body in 2006.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 05:14 PM:
Here is some food for thought: Obesity causes more problems such as heart disease, heart attack, high blood pressure etc.. and there are many studies that haven proven to show that obesity & weight problems are the root of these such problems. And known killers. Splenda on the other hand has not been proven either way scientifically to be healthy or unhealthy. It is just word of mouth that people are hearing about right now. So I would much rather use splenda than use sugar which will add hundreds and thousands of calories (not to mention is insanely addictive too) that would cause me to gain a lot of weight. So I will take my chances with splenda than taking a chance of becoming obese and unhappy. Once again everything in moderation. I don't think I am gonna quit using a 2 pkts of splenda and a little bit here and there for some sugar or nothing blahhhh.... I am sorry I just think those things are phooey that those people wrote sorry my opinion. Something to over sensationalize things. C'mon have you ever really heard or known someone to get cancer from sweet n' low? There is no scientific proof that the person got it specifically from that product. Cancer is caused by many different things. One being the air we breath. So they say. Also genetics have been linked to cancer. It would be hard to say oooohhhh you used some splenda thats where you got it from. Just my 2 cents.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 05:46 PM:
Link to other thread concerning this... http://www.bodyforlife-tracker.com/weight_loss_forums/viewthread.cfm?f=4&t=5081

Body for Life Forum Message by Roe (25 posts) at 06:08 PM:
Wooww.. aspertame, doesn't cause obesity and is not linked to disease. This such a debatable topic, however their is not enough data to "proove" that these things happen when consuming aspertame. their has NOT been any solid methods or theories to strongly back that up. As far as, splenda: Beans cause gastronitestinal problems, its called, farting! Milk causes calcifilcation history, yes even milk, just check out the milk webistes and the horrible things dr.say about it. Swelling in our liver can be cause by alcohol, so, where do we draw the line. It all falls back to moderation.

Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (263 posts) at 06:19 PM:
Just like all the supplements that we take almost all consumables can be linked to this or that. If you get caught up in everything you will go crazy. Just exercise and eat healthy and hopefully you will live long and prosperous. Everyones body is different and handles the substances differently, hell my grandmother is 83 and has smoked since she was 14 and she is in awesome condition. It is a risk to do some things but it is also a choice, the outcome is unknown but don't make yourself crazy over sweetners.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 07:14 PM:
Oh just found out that to get the results that those rats did you would have to eat .... drum roll please..... 1000 packets of splenda a day!

Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (242 posts) at 07:27 PM:
THESE DAYS, trying to eat "all natural" is almost like trying to figure out how to "buy American." ALmost nothing any more comes in a truly natural condition, be it sugar or anything else. I am supportive of the rights of people to eat and drink "all natural" to the extent they want. What I am NOT SUPPORTIVE OF is clogging the websites of the Internet with half-truths, outright lies, and misleading rumors about lawful products that have not been scientifically proven to be harmful at all. This battle has raged forever about aspartame. Now, similar allegations, unfounded, are leveled at Splenda. This information is recirculated in various forms by Mercola and many others, not just with the motive of helping us, but of selling their own plans and books and products. It has been going on for years. Here is just one short quote from Snopes.com, a large site that keeps tracks of these fraud campaigns against products. "Much-traveled e-mail from 1998 decrying the supposed dangers of artificial sweeteners (i.e. aspartame, Splenda, Equal, Nutrasweet) is periodically revamped, and circulated anew." Splenda--perhaps not perfect, but certainly better than mass quantitities of basically useless refined sugar. And as Forrest Gump always said, "That's all I'm gonna say about that."

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 07:31 PM:
Whew, I'm okay then - I'm only at 900 packets a day. I don't believe the teeny bit of splenda I use is going to cause any ill effects to my health. There are SO MANY other things with the food we eat (milk, beef, chicken - horrors if we're talking dangerous foods) that the splenda looks like a grain of splenda next to these issues.

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 08:22 PM:
Thanks, Michiganmike... that's my problem too. That Mercola is not a valid source as far as I am concerned. If someone chooses not to use Splenda or anything else, that is by all means their right. But I'm pretty sick of the scaremongering that happens about these sweeteners, most of which can be traced back to someone who will possibly benefit from you switching way from Splenda or whatever is being touted as the world's biggest nutrition danger this week. MomOfThree, I'm not directing that at you, but rather at the sources you've posted. I think whenever one of these types of articles comes up, we tend to freak out and often without all the facts. Like TNT's reference to needing to eat 1000 packets a day of Splenda to replicate the effect it had in rats. The same molecules in chlorine are used in other things we eat every day (like table salt). I remember when my dad, who was diabetic, swore off saccharin because it caused cancer in rats. When they gave rats saccharin by the gallon, yep, they got cancer. Turns out now saccharine isn't such a big risk. My dad switched to Equal, which is now the big evil (unless you count Splenda, lol). Looks like we all need to just grow our own food and raise our own farm animals for meat to avoid dying from the foods we eat, at least until "Dr" Mercola reports that any food exposed to sunshine causes cancer and we have to eat nothing but potatoes. :P

Thread: Love my George Foreman!!! (47 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (51 posts) at 04:51 PM: Love my George Foreman!!!
I got my GF grill and have cooked so much on it already and love it. I made sliced zuchinni and orange roughy for my dinner last night....yum. Thanks to everyone who encouraged me to get it.

Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1089 posts) at 04:52 PM:
my girlfriend got me a huge GF grill and it is awesome

Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (51 posts) at 05:00 PM:
What have you made on yours? I'm always looking for new food ideas.

Body for Life Forum Message by AngRoCamp (153 posts) at 05:13 PM:
I love mine too!! I've done mostly just fish and chicken on mine, and I'm always pleased with the results. Best $3 at a second hand store I ever spent LOL. Ang

Body for Life Forum Message by Roe (25 posts) at 05:58 PM:
I dont have a GF, but something a lot similiar. I spray it w. pam and lay oranges on it, then add chicken ontop, then orange slices again!!! It so robust with flavor!! re ember to spray the top grill so the oranges dont stick.

Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (51 posts) at 06:45 PM:
Yum! The orange chicken sounds good. I made fresh veggies on mine tonight....red peppers, onions, and zuchinni...yummy. I agree with Roe...it is a must to spray with Pam. pk

General Health & Fitness: EAS & Other Supplements

Thread: protien powder (203 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Scattergold (24 posts) at 09:36 AM:
So how long after a workout should I wait to drink a protein drink? In BFL it says wait an hour to eat... (I work out in the morning).... should it be had with breakfast?

Thread: CLA - Which one to use? (68 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Prissy Crissy (73 posts) at 12:34 PM: CLA - Which one to use?
I am looking at buying this but there seems to be LOTS of different brands and mg's to choose from. What should I be looking for? Thanks!

Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (243 posts) at 01:37 PM:
I use the GNC brand...1000mg per pill...and I take 3-4 a day.

Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (263 posts) at 06:08 PM:
I also use GNC brand, most are good just make sure you are taking enough

Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (243 posts) at 08:42 PM:
How many do you take?

Body for Life Forum Message by ashtrash (383 posts) at 09:05 PM:
Has anyone actually seen results with this? I'm a little skeptical about CLA...

Thread: Designer Whey? (53 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1004 posts) at 02:09 PM: Designer Whey?
Does anyone have any thoughts on the taste of Designer Whey brand protein powder? They have some small containers for sale at Meijer for $9 and I'm considering trying some. I have issues with regular whey products outside of Myoplex. I can't stand the aftertaste and can't seem to cover the taste up without going all out and busting out the blender. Would love to know what flavors you like from the Designer Whey product line. Here's their website address: http://www.designerwhey.com/ Thanks, Danielle

Body for Life Forum Message by Fraigle29 (20 posts) at 02:13 PM:
My husband and I use the Strawberry almost daily, it seems to mix the most smoothly with a fork. We have tried the Vanilla and Chocolate too, but were not as successful.

Body for Life Forum Message by fitnesscrazedmom (39 posts) at 02:39 PM:
I only use Designer Whey. I think it tastes much better than other powders and its nice and fine so it mixes very well into recipes and shakes.

Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1004 posts) at 03:24 PM:
Think I'm going to pick up some in a few! Thanks folks! Danielle

Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (263 posts) at 06:11 PM:
Blehhh, I hate designer, it doesn't mix well for me and has a weird texture. I prefer Optimum Nutrition!

Thread: Body for life bars instead of Myoplex shakes??? (89 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by schultkr (4 posts) at 03:13 PM: Body for life bars instead of Myoplex shakes???
Hey, Just wondered what everyone thought about just using the body for life bars instead of the myoplex shakes? The bars seem to be pretty tasty, as far as diet bars go, but I am having a hard time choking down the shakes. I have even tried using more water, using half of the packet, and so on. I have only tried the tropical ones, so if anyone likes the others better, let me know!!! I'm a newbie and am just trying to figure everything out! Thanks, much appreciated!

Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (509 posts) at 03:19 PM:
I personally only use the bars as a last resort emergency back up device. Food is best. When you can't have food, have a shake. I've had the tropicals and think they are the worst ones yet. In fact, I've had all the mixes and believe they all suck but thats just my opinion. I buy the strawberry Carb Sense ready to drinks..again for emergencies and leave em in my car. Try some whey powder, I use the EAS Vanilla whey and then add things like bananas, flavorings, etc. in a blender with a few cubes of ice. Some flavoring suggestions may be: mint, banana, cinnamin, butter flavor, cocoa, root beer, maple, pineapple, coconut. Have fun with them... The bars are loaded with a bunch of stuff you're body doesn't necessarily need. Hope this was helpful :)

Body for Life Forum Message by schultkr (4 posts) at 03:35 PM:
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the input!! I am glad to hear that someone else doesn't use the shakes either. They just make me gag!

Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (188 posts) at 03:41 PM:
Shakes are definately better then bars. Bars have more sugar and IMHO should be used when absolutely necessary but not all the time. Maybe once a day. I am trying my best to choke down the rest of my box of tropical myoplex's as well, bleh! I will drink them cause I want my hot bod back, lol. Not my favorite though. I LOVE the vanilla ones! They are definately my fav!! You can add anything to them. Sometimes I add sugar free banana pudding mix, sometimes the sugar cheesecake mix and it's oh so yummy!! Try a different flavor and like can'tstopme said, whole foods are always the better choice. I drink 3 shakes a day though for convenience and my vitamin source. HTH!! Shelly =)

Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (242 posts) at 04:00 PM:
The protein bars totally suck! They are candy bars with extra protein in them, making them not fit as candy or as a good source of protein! The only reason they are marketed is because the companies make a pile of money on them; they take up very little shelf space, and they stay "fresh" (read as "chewy") forever it seems. Too much sugar, not enough good quality protein, too much fat; they are crap!

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 04:15 PM:
omg....I LOVED the tropical Myoplex shakes! There is lots a debate about bars....many people say too much sugar, not filling, not good enough, whole food better....the list goes on. I use them. Probably twice a week or on the go. But not in replacement of a Myoplex. I try to have 1-2 Myoplex a day. Sometimes I eat 6 whole food meals. I just depends on the day. If you can vary your eating schedule up, I would not rely on the bars as a daily meal. teresa

Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (10 posts) at 04:17 PM:
Personally I think whole foods are best, if you can swing it with 6 meals a day. I don't usually like the ready to go shakes, but the vanilla myoplex packages are wonderful if you blend them with a few frozen strawberries. I'm sure other fruits would work well. I don't think you need to use the shakes or the bars, if you don't like them, they are just to make it easier to eat 6 meals a day. They also are very pricey.

Body for Life Forum Message by schultkr (4 posts) at 04:31 PM:
Thanks everyone!!! I really appreciate the input! Helps out a lot! I will definitely try the vanilla shakes and put some fruit in them or something. Hopefully that works for me :)

Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (263 posts) at 06:10 PM:
Actually a shake comes out cheaper than most meals if you break it down. Around a buck a shake. Also get all of your vitamins and minerals. Bill Philips recommends 3 shakes and 3 meals. I would follow that. Bars are glorified candy.

Thread: Newbie wanting to know about supplements... (11 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by lis72 (10 posts) at 10:22 PM: Newbie wanting to know about supplements...
Should I be taking supplements of any kind? I am not taking anything right now. Please advise. Thanks.

General Health & Fitness: (OT) Off-Topic Threads

Thread: When Is Your Birthday? And Zodiac Sign (904 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:34 PM:
JAMBER---YAY, I KNEW that me (cancer) and my boyfriend (virgo) got along great and that it MUST be in the stars ; )...lol...only thing is...I'm all feelings...he is all NOT feelings..LOL....so, I have to PRYYYYYYYYYYy them out of him.... lol

Thread: Bill Phillips (164 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:55 PM:
umm as much as I love BFL...bill is very hands off these days... in fact I don't think he is involved at all...hence turning the entire challenge over to Porter Freeman... sold EAS also right...?

Thread: OT: The school bus incident.... (135 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:53 PM:
well now, not sure what you state you are in..but I work in the legal field AND... in our state every driver on the road has a legal "duty" to drive safely, yield to other vehicles, control their vehicle, etc.... so yes, you should take action....on the other hand.... I would have followe that bus to its next stop and gotten the info then...driver's name, etc... you basically were involved in a hit and run. Also, there would have been witnesses correct? But aside from all your legal rights... grrrrrr on busing, grrrrr on school boards, grrrrrr on tax payers dollar...hey you are paying the salary of the person that hit you....you are paying to fix your car and buy their groceries...how about that.

Thread: I have a 12 year old son soon to be 13 and I need advice re music (306 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:48 PM:
well now...here I go.... I LOVE MUSIC>...all kinds... play two instruments, learned it my whole life...ALSO..grew up in one of those extremely fundamental christian schools that would kick you out for listening to it.... that being said...of course I did... we ALL did...we all snuck and I was one of the FEW that had the original 2 live crew that WASN"T edited...and yes, I was very cool...LOL...so, I have 5 kids, 4 of which are boys..and kids are smart... I love rap...which of course has filthy lyrics..my kids and I listen together in the car..and my 13 yaer old daughter always bleeps the bad words...it is pretty funny and my boys will yell in unison while we are all singing.. "bad word" over the bad words...so no, I don't think that the music creates horrific people... as long as you are teaching your kids the difference between right and wrong anyway.... addendum...I ALSO don't really think the "video games" made Columbine happen.... get my drift? Parents need to parent...and that can be done by saying... this song has filthy lyrics, I do NOT agree with them...heck yeah it has a great beat, don't sing it in front of your grandmother. :)

Thread: Bare or Hair? (302 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:39 PM:
In my opinion...and trust me it counts for A LOT.... any girl that thinks a hairless chest is icky....and playing with the right kind of pecs :) There is nothing better than having a whole hand or mouth full of defined pecs...minus the hair... :)... so, hey, if you got em, flaunt em.

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:40 PM:
don't be ridiculous michigan... a REAL woman never FORGETS to shave her legs... or anything else for that matter ; )

Thread: Create new user name for new challenge (144 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:14 PM:
I am the evil twin....I don't let the good one come out and play very often! I actually decided to just keep Mellie, Im too lazy to create another one! I never knew Tracker Crashed! OMG! Scary!

Thread: For the chest obsessed (177 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:10 PM:
That was SOOOO Funny! I am printing this!

Thread: Rules of Free Day ... (345 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by David870 (18 posts) at 11:06 AM:
I have to give credit to the white cat for his taste in Free Day beer....after all, it's a Bud Light, right? My nickname's Bud, so I heartily approve... I'm a cat person. I love my 3 like they're my own kids....

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 12:35 PM:
You mean they aren't your kids? Oh yeah, kids can't get that spoiled :P Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 02:56 PM:
OMG this thread is SOOOO funny! we need to make up t-shirts with these sayings... As if people don't already look at us funny ! ~LOL

Thread: So you think you had a crappy Monday? (173 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (138 posts) at 06:06 AM:
Really sorry to hear about your dog. It's always tough when you have to put one down. And crapping a cell phone probably wasn't much fun either. Was it on vibrate? :)

Body for Life Forum Message by Muscles_Marinara (16 posts) at 06:11 AM:
It was, but leave my personal life out of it! ;)

Thread: Happy Belated to Insanityx3! :) (80 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Insanityx3 (111 posts) at 01:29 AM:
awwwwww thanks ladies n gents......u all are awesome......

Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (119 posts) at 03:06 AM:
Happy Birthday. Hope you had a great day!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (1051 posts) at 07:08 PM:
Belated... sorry.. Happy Birthday!! Yours in Health, Kerry

Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (707 posts) at 10:54 PM:
Yes, happy belated birthday! Thanks for adding it to the list too! There are a couple of us putting lists/reminders together to help keep track of the growing list! It's fantastic! Jennifer

Thread: Body for life dog.... (194 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 10:49 AM:
I'm sure it's a great protien source, but the portion size is enormous! It's WAY bigger than the palm of it's hand or it's fist!!! And where are the carbs? It's FAR from a balanced meal! Still, better than Alpo I'm sure :D Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by David870 (18 posts) at 11:00 AM:
Hey, wild game is approved, right? I'd imagine that cat was pretty wild-acting at one time....

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 02:52 PM:
Oh NO!!! LMAO!! Gotta agree with Tom.. the portion size is ALL wrong! LOL!

Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (509 posts) at 03:08 PM:
Bet it tastes like chicken.

Body for Life Forum Message by Forest Tech (115 posts) at 03:21 PM:
hope he doesn't have bad breath!

Body for Life Forum Message by Scattergold (24 posts) at 03:26 PM:
stuffonmycat.com is the funniest site :-)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:29 PM:
that is frickin' funny!

Thread: The Things Kids Teach You (187 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 01:26 AM:
wannabegreat - LOL Hey amkazen, I hope you learned something from this!!! The next she'll be wanting to shove her little razors up your nose. Don't let her and don't even giggle, that makes it more interesting for them and one of the little razors WILL manage to catch your nose. Believe me, I know this LOL.

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 08:56 AM:
Man, I don't think its funny at all....thats not good and I hope once she stopped crying you both talked with her about it.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 09:03 AM:
LMAO hope your lip is feeling better. I have a 2 1/2 yr old an dI can say I have experienced something similar lol at least you don't have braces on! Oh man they are little rascals aren't they!

Body for Life Forum Message by TreeStand (94 posts) at 09:29 AM:
similar marker incident at a family funtion. kids were busy inside the house doing you know kid stuff. In the basement there is the fathers cave with 60" HDTV and assorted stuff to just sit down there with nothing else better to do. Also there is toys there, nothing to do right?? why not watch the kids? Well anyway, there is a microwave down there and the kids were using it as a timer to keep track of sharing the toys and stuff. Along the evening someone decided to put markers in there... lets just say it was fairly easy to clean up. Mostly just the fuzzy stuff and a lot of color.

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 09:30 AM:
Amkazen, I had a similar experience with my son last night. Go figure! He is two also and this is what I learned from my older child. The first time she did that it was an experiment. The second time will be to see how you react. She will look right at you when you are doing it to see what you do. Now is a great time to start to teach her about feelings. Next time she does that or anything similar, try making a very sad face and saying "OW, that hurts daddy". She might cry and she might laugh and then show her what a gentle touch is. Open up her little fist and touch it to your face gently, then say "nice". This worked for my daughter and I am now teaching it to my son. Of course, you will have to do it 500 times, but it will eventually work. Hope your lip is ok!

Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (27 posts) at 09:33 AM:
Kids are soooo theatrical. WHo needs to pay $8 to see a movie. I have my own entertainment in the luxury of my own home. My youngest son had a sore throat and I bought the medicated suckers, knowing for sure that my son would accept a sucker (CANDY!)...I handed it to him and said, "here you go honey, this will make your throat feel better, ok?" he nodded with his pouty mouth and said "ok" and proceeded to put the sucker under his chin and rested it on his throat....he took me literally when I told him it would make his throat feel better. It reminded me of the time my oldest had a cold and put two baby asprin in his nostrils when I told him that the medicine would make his nose feel better (running a cold/fever)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 09:37 AM:
LOL, now THAT'S funny Suz!

Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (287 posts) at 10:15 AM:
Funny stories! My lip is better today, as it was a little sore yesterday. Yes, we talked about it afterwards, and again yesterday morning, which was the morning after.

Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (353 posts) at 10:34 AM:
LOL Amkazen! Glad you are feeling better! We've had a few of these things happen at our house too. As you know, there's never a dull moment with small children around. In my work, I hear about many parents and grandparents having to go to the ER because of incidents similar to this, mostly facial and eye injuries. Glad you didn't have to make that trip!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (27 posts) at 10:43 AM:
Hope your lip feels better! :)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 02:47 PM:
Oh Owwwww ! Ah yes --the Joy of toddlers & learning about "others" & their "Feelings!" Hope you're feeling better!

Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (961 posts) at 03:27 PM:
I got one for you-as soon as it happened I thought of this post..hehe I'm a wacko, I know! I'm bending over at the waist, wiping the mouth of my 2 year old when My 3 year old son runs at me full speed and head butts me as hard as he can right in the butt muscle(actually kind of to the side where the bone is) I got an intstant charley horse in my butt...DANG IT that hurt!! Good thing it wasn't LBWO today! Sheesh! Hope your lip feels better! :)

Thread: OT- Freaked out I don't want to go to work today!!!!!!! (149 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mucca500 (87 posts) at 07:12 AM: OT- Freaked out I don't want to go to work today!!!!!!!
im nervous about going to work today, i work in a store with one other woman and usually we work together until 4 and im there until 5, but today shell be gone all day and ill be by myself. that wouldnt usually bother me, but yesterday we had an incident. there was these guys that was doing some work for our company and one of them was using foul language in front of the customers and it was offending us so my manager asked him to stop or he'd have to leave and we would get someone else to do the work. so ok he stopped and they left. but a hour later he came back by himself in his personal car and threatend us to give him the name of the customer that complained about his cursingso he could fight him!! he was irate and aggressive and after refusing to leave we told him we were goign to call the police and he finally left. but who the heck does that?!?! why in the world would he have come back to try and scare us?? but anyway, i bought some pepper spray last night. lol. but im worried hes going to come back again. anyway, i know this isnt bfl related but i needed to vent. i gotta get going to work! hopefully it will be boring! alexis

Body for Life Forum Message by SupaFreak (1004 posts) at 07:16 AM:
Is your store located in a busy area? Is it in a mall? If it's in a mall, notify your security so they can keep close tabs on your today. And keep that pepper spray and your right hook ready. I'll be thinking of you today. I'm sure everything will be A-OK. Danielle

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 07:20 AM:
Some people just want to intimidate because they are feeling low on themselves. Just your cool, your confidence, and your pepper spray with you! Also keep the phone. Call the police if he comes back again. Don't even give him a chance to be warned. If you are scared....call them. If you are really scared...call them now, explain what happened and ask them to keep your store on patrol. Just don't cave in to his intimidation...even if you want to. Take it out in a HIIT if you have to ;0 Good luck. Teresa

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 07:25 AM:
I agree with the others, keep the phone nearby, and if you see him even approach the store, call the police. Is there anyway you can contact the place he works for and let them know there is a problem? Actually, that's probably your manager's job... but that is pretty uncool, hostile or not, to be swearing in front of customers.

Body for Life Forum Message by motiv8me (193 posts) at 07:53 AM:
I also agree with everyone who has posted. I also wanted to add - - No matter what, don't let him see that he's scared you. Some people get more momentum when they see that they're in a position of power. Don't give it to him or this could escalate even more. Good luck. Please give us an update.

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 08:48 AM:
That is what OT is for - Off Topic - not BFL related and we are here for you on ANY level! I would go ahead and call the local police station and make them aware of the situation (not 911 though) just to give them a heads up. Be careful.....people are insane. You will be in our thoughts today.

Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (547 posts) at 09:52 AM:
Mucca..you know the old saying: "Better to be safe than sorry" After 10+ years in law enforcement and working w/ victims groups since 1993...Ive seen ALOT. Just be aware of your surroundings, call your boss, the police and also let other stores around you (if there are any)know about this guy and to just "keep their eyes open". Be strong, have faith and most of BE SMART!! And if you feel UNSAFE-screw the job and close today or tell your boss you NEED someone else there with you. **Bottom line-your SAFETY is THE most important thing. (You can always find another job) (

Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (220 posts) at 10:17 AM:
Ditto on what Dana said. This guy doesn't sound like some schoolyard bully with a low self esteem problem who needs a good standing-up to. Your boss needs to be concerned with your safety. Period. If you feel this person would harm you in any way it is your responsibility to protect yourself. If that means making others around you aware of the situation and getting their word to keep an eye out and back you up, do it. If that means making your boss have someone else there with you, do it. If that means making the police aware of this situation, do it. If that means staying home today, do it. Good luck.

Thread: Anyone know anyone with this name? (218 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Lovey75 (458 posts) at 03:49 PM: Anyone know anyone with this name?
We just had a son that we named Logan, but we were considering Piper if it was a girl. Just wondered what people thought of the name Piper now that we didn't go with it and if you know anyone with that name. More details on my blog (homepage).

Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (509 posts) at 03:51 PM:
Congratulations!!! Logan is a beautiful name!! I can only say that I'm happy for "Piper's" sake that it was a boy.

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:51 PM:
Personally I don't know anyone with that name..but honestly I don't like it...sorry. But I like Logan!

Body for Life Forum Message by reneakleinisakson (432 posts) at 03:56 PM:
I actually love it. But I also love names that are a step off the beaten path.

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 03:59 PM:
Yep, in high school. She was very smart and the drama student type.

Body for Life Forum Message by KauaiBound (171 posts) at 04:08 PM:
My sister's sister-in-law's name is Piper. If fits her and I like it. I think there was an actress named Piper Laurie. Linn

Body for Life Forum Message by nurse36 (205 posts) at 04:10 PM:
Hey! Same here! I went to high school with a Piper. I think poeple made fun of her all the time. She was the drama type... and she had this crazy red hair! People called her Pippy... like Longstocking... sometimes! Kids can be so mean! I like Logan! My neighbor has a boy named Logan. He's a cutie... but a handful! Aren't all boys??

Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (455 posts) at 04:12 PM:
Yeah, Piper Laurie. I think she was the crazy mom in the movie "Carrie".

Body for Life Forum Message by Kela (129 posts) at 04:16 PM:
Sounds very theatrical. Sorry, but not a name I would choose! Logan is a very cute name though...congrats!

Body for Life Forum Message by motiv8me (193 posts) at 04:25 PM:
Hey! I was just thinking about you, and wondering if you guys had had your baby yet! Congratulations! I'm a baby photographer, and I hear some pretty unique names, but I haven't heard the name Piper before. In fact, I've never photographed a Baby Logan before either! :-) Enjoy your little one!

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 04:28 PM:
I like them both but especially Logan. As a matter of fact (and you might not like this) I like it for a girl too! Its been a while since I had my last but I had this great name book, in it were a group of boy's names that would eventually become girl's names; you wouldn't believe some of them - off the top of my head: Bruce, Gregory, Keith, Michael, Andrew to name a few - yes girl's names LOL. I think you had very fine names picked out.

Body for Life Forum Message by nikki (91 posts) at 04:53 PM:
I know a girl named Piper Stoner...seriously. I love the name Piper, I just don't think I would pair it with "Stoner".....bahahahahaha My daughter has a friend named Logan. I think it's a really cool name!

Body for Life Forum Message by Reagiesmom (417 posts) at 05:04 PM:
Love Logan.... my friend's son is named that. I like Piper too..... its REALLY unique.

Body for Life Forum Message by hb9252 (Ellen) (30 posts) at 05:10 PM:
I like both names - very cute and unique without being "weird". Perfect. I know a couple of Logans, but not any Pipers except the one on Charmed.

Body for Life Forum Message by RJA (160 posts) at 05:13 PM:
piper sounds nice but it also sounds like she could be headed for the pole... and no father wants that.

Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (40 posts) at 05:15 PM:
I Like it but I am into different names. My son's name is Race. Karyn

Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (188 posts) at 05:36 PM:
I like both the girl names you had picked out, Piper Noelle is cute and Lydia Noelle sounds pretty. Now I am so happy for you that you had a baby boy, you guys picked an adorable name for him!! CONGRATS!!! Shelly =)

Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (555 posts) at 06:20 PM:
LOL, RJA!!

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 06:29 PM:
A girl named Piper stole my boyfriend when I was 18. :)

Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (707 posts) at 09:15 PM:
Not personally, but there is a Piper on the show Charmed. I'm into different names too. My daughter's name is Kaylee Morgan..and years later I thought of Ashlynne Sierra... I wanted to name my son either Tyler or Hunter, but somehow have a Zack! I really like the name Logan. I know a 10 year old named Logan, but he's the only one. Jennifer

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:29 PM:
I have a nephew named Logan....my sister's little boy...and I know a girl that has a cat named Piper.

Body for Life Forum Message by boom30 (120 posts) at 09:30 PM:
oh the little boy that lives in the house behind us is also named Logan.

Body for Life Forum Message by wannabegreat (15 posts) at 10:10 PM:
I love both the name Logan and the name Piper. Piper is a really cool name. I makes me think of someone very independent and self-assured. My daughter's name is Aria. (I've never met a Piper or an Aria.)

Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (27 posts) at 10:18 PM:
I LOVE Piper....I also love Topher (that 70's show actor)....I love original names. My oldest is Carson (maiden name) My daughter's name is Arley and my youngest is common "Lucas" my oldest son named him, he wanted Luke Skywalker...so dad and I compromised. His name is Lucas "luke" Walker (no sky)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 10:26 PM:
I like Piper.. it's unique & pretty! Logan is a Good sturdy boys name.. good for you .. with your last name you couldn't have anything foofy! ;) Hope he & Mommy are doing well Hugs Lala*

Body for Life Forum Message by NewMe06 (4 posts) at 10:32 PM:
My 10 month old son is name Logan. So love it! Sounds like there are alot of "Logans" out there....

Thread: Spring Break (29 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (335 posts) at 06:21 PM: Spring Break
We decided on a whim to go to Florida for Spring Break this year. I just made reservations at the Nickelodeon Family Suites hotel in Orlando for March 27-31. Have you seen this hotel? We got a Spongebob Suite, the kids are going to love it!! Has anyone been there or know someone who has?? It looks really wonderful on the website, very reasonable, two huge pools, shuttles to Disney, Universal Studios, Sea World, etc. I'm kinda looking forward to it. What are your plans for Spring Break?

Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (508 posts) at 06:26 PM:
The Beaches of St Pete first week of April!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There will be a 40 of us. Lookout Florida!!!!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 06:36 PM:
VEGAS BABY!!!!!!!

Body for LIFE: Eating for LIFE

Thread: OK, now I've outdone myself...the best! (153 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 02:19 AM:
That does sound good - I'll be trying these too. Thanks!

Body for Life Forum Message by hb9252 (Ellen) (30 posts) at 05:50 AM:
Yummy! Those sound great!

Thread: Free Day - What do you do? (197 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by pegs (10 posts) at 03:08 AM:
Im new to this challenge and my first free day ison sunday. just the thought of having a cookie- just a cookie, a nice soft chocolate chip cookie on sunday keeps me eating healthy during the week. I dont know if i wll go all crazy but i know that cookies r my drug of choice and just one has been doing the trick for me lately. oh gosh i must sound like an addict lol.

Body for Life Forum Message by scrappinmichelle (21 posts) at 05:16 AM:
Awesome advice everyone! Thank you; this thread has been so encouraging!

Body for Life Forum Message by RyanCTJ (6 posts) at 05:19 AM:
I've just started like you peg, and am looking forward to a nice bacon sandwich and some cookies on Sunday :) One thing I would say reading the above posts is that yes, the free day becomes self regulating as time goes on, but new BFLers shouldn't be discouraged from eating what they want on their free days to start off. I lost 30lbs of B/F on my 1st BFL and had a good few mega-binges on my first couple of off days (food and beers). The free day is part of the program, so don't feel guilty about overeating or having to do cardios on off days etc as some have advised, as you will still get amazing results as long as you are following the program strictly.

Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (52 posts) at 05:37 AM:
Heres my two cents, On my first challenge, I cringed with free day. Now I have come to accept and enjoy my free days. Its not a day to go crazy, its my day to enjoy some treats, or if theres a special something happening, I declare my free day then, so Its like I allow myself some treat/s. Example soemtimes I chose movies on free day, so I enjoy my nachos guiltfree. I found that theres just so much junk the body will take, after a treat for breakfast, then a free lunch, My dinner, my body is literally craving healthy, so I follow that. Since taking free days, I feel a difference in my progress for the better...Just dont pig out, enjoy some treats.

Thread: Kelloggs Special K Protein Plus (113 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (82 posts) at 09:39 AM:
I make it a meal with skim milk and 3/4 c. cottage cheese (obviously separate). It comes out to a very nice balance of protein/carbs. And four carbs more than the protein isn't too high in carbs. Just look at the EFL meals--they are usually higher in carbs.

Body for Life Forum Message by Scattergold (24 posts) at 09:55 AM:
Thanks for this pointer.... I am a huge cereal fan so its always good to fond one thats good for me and what to add to balance it out =)

Body for Life Forum Message by reneakleinisakson (432 posts) at 09:58 AM:
If you eat it with light soy milk it would be more balanced. I buy 8th continent light soy milk and it actually has more protein than carbs.

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 10:17 AM:
I just posted something similar in another topic (LOL). Anyways, I like the Kashi GoLean cereals. It has 13g protein, 30g carb (10g fiber, 6g sugar), 1g fat, and 140 calories per serving of 1 cup. For 3/4 cups, it's 110 calories.

Thread: Non Dairy Creamer and Splenda in Coffee (64 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by wdfrank (4 posts) at 06:39 AM: Non Dairy Creamer and Splenda in Coffee
Hello All! Long time reader...first time writer. :) I am on week two of BFL! I am loving it, but I would like to know if I can put non dairy creamer and splenda in my coffee in the mornings? The serving size is 1 Teaspoon and has .5 g Fat, 0 cholesterol, 0 Sodium, and 1 Carb....what do you think? Thanks so much, wdfrank

Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (274 posts) at 08:47 AM:
I think I'd pass on the creamer and add maybe a shot of skim milk and a little splenda. This way you are also getting your protein, where creamer has 0. Hope this helps xoxo karen

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 09:19 AM:
I use the CoffeeMate Fat Free Non-Dairy Creamer. Here are the stats: Calories: 10 Fat: 0 Cholesterol: 0 Carbs: 2 (but not from sugar) Proteins: 0 And a serving size is a tablespoon. I cant tell the difference from regular creamer! Also, if you like flavors, try some sugar free Torani syrup or DaVinci Syrup, they are made with splenda and come in hundreds of flavors. Hope this helps!

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 09:39 AM:
I personally just add skim milk and a little bit of splenda. I used to put tons of half & half cream in my coffee. But once I converted to skim milk courtesy of BFL, I can't go back! The cream is just too heavy for me now.

Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (547 posts) at 09:43 AM:
wd.....Ive always used non dairy creamer & Sweet n low or splenda. I just started adding 1/2 a shot of the sugarfree/calorie free Torani syrup and it hasnt had any negetive effects on my progress. Coffee is the ONE thing I absolutely REFUSE to give up, and the extra 10-15 calories a day is worth it to me and my sanity! :)

Body for Life Forum Message by ReenieC (128 posts) at 02:16 PM:
There is just no way I can give up my coffee and creamer in the morning!! I use either the FF hazelnut or now they came out with carb-conscious FF hazelnut creamer! For the tiny amount I put in my coffee, I don't think it's all that bad...especially since I don't add any additional sugars. I tried soy milk in coffee, and it just doesn't taste right!

Body for Life Forum Message by wdfrank (4 posts) at 06:44 PM:
Thank you all sooooo much! I am so excited! I felt as thought I was cheating when doing this because it is so good. I do not like milk; however, I appreciate all of those suggestions. I think I am going to check out the CoffeeMate and look at getting some of that Syryp! Thanks again for all of your suggestions! wdfrank

Thread: Business Trip - All Day Meetings (74 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by wdfrank (4 posts) at 06:51 AM: Business Trip - All Day Meetings
I am going on a Business trip next week. I am driving with two fellow coworkers. We leave Wednesday around 1pm and will arrive at the hotel around 6 or 7. I assume I will be eating out that night so no big deal...I can take some snacks for the car. What do I do on Thursday and Friday? I will be in long meetings all day both days? I am used to packing my snacks and lunches the night before and having access to a refrigerator. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can take that does not require a refrigerator and can counts as my snacks/meals? They are providing lunch, but I am afraid that it might be pizza so I want to plan ahead. I also need somethiing that will not be distracting if I pull it out and start eating discretely during the meeting. Thanks! wdfrank

Body for Life Forum Message by Muscle Head (28 posts) at 07:08 AM:
I've been faced with this many times, and always try to have bars and/or RTD shakes on hand. If worse comes to worse, just don't over do it on the pizza, or whatever unauthorized foods may be served.

Body for Life Forum Message by crazyblonde78 (274 posts) at 08:46 AM:
Or you can make one of those your free days, and you wont have to worry. I know these are the HARD times, but people should respect that you are bettering yourself.

Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (52 posts) at 08:53 AM:
I agree, you need to use one day as your free day, and the others you need to bring in RTDs, bars and any other small thing that is non-obtrusive. Fruit/Nuts would go good as well. Let us know what happens!

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 09:44 AM:
I agree. Make one of those days a free day, or just bring RTDs and bars. Also, maybe fruits & low fat string cheese?

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 10:04 AM:
Oh, I just remembered. Oh my lazy days for breakfast I eat Go Lean Kashi cereals. There's one that comes with extra protein. When I take it to work, I just pack some (usually a handful or so) in a ziploc bag and munch on it.

Body for Life Forum Message by wdfrank (4 posts) at 06:51 PM:
Great suggestions! I really do not want to make those my free days, but I will definately keep that in mind. I think I am going to stock up on the bars and maybe make a nut/dried fruit mix and put in those little snack backs. I can keep those with me in the meeting as well as have my water bottle so I can stay hydrated. Does anyone have suggestions on dried fruit that is BFL authorized? and what I can mix with it to make a 'trail mix' of sort? I can also take oranges and maybe sunflower seeds for the times I am in my hotel room and I get to have my snack and for breakfast.

Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (555 posts) at 06:57 PM:
I have been known to pack lots of hard boiled eggs to take with me for day-long meetings. Then, I take a "bathroom break" where I crack and rinse off the eggs in the sink. Don't worry about what people will think of you doing this in the bathroom. They'll be too freaked out to ask! HA. Also - cheese sticks will last nearly a whole day out of the refrigerator. Take a few packets of Myoplex. Easy to mix in the hotel room.

Thread: Your Thoughts on Lean Cuisine...Healthy Choice...etc... (46 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ReenieC (128 posts) at 01:32 PM: Your Thoughts on Lean Cuisine...Healthy Choice...etc...
I was just wondering if anyone here buys this stuff or what do you think of it??? How BFL approved are they, etc... I was at the grocery store reading labels (as usual) and got so caught up in the amount of junk that comes in some of them, even though they are labeled as healthy, low sodium, carb conscious...etc... But, I can see how the convenience of having them would be for a lunch meal. Most come with your protein and veggie, so technically it would be balanced carb/protein combo. I was just hoping to get some feedback from here since everyone always has great advice to offer. Thanks!!

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 01:37 PM:
They are loaded with sodium but if you drink a lot of water (which you should be already ;-) with them no big deal. The south Beach ones are good too esp. if you are in a pinch. Personally I find it cheaper just to pack my own chicken/ brown rice/ frozen veggies in a container. Pop it in the Microwave shhhazaam. But to answer your question most of them are alright. Better than a quarter pounder with cheese or a hungryman right? lol.

Body for Life Forum Message by fromfat2firm (37 posts) at 04:39 PM:
I like the South beach frozen pizzas. It's made with whole wheat crust and easy on the calories. It helps when I'm craving real pizza. lol I just add a side salad to that and a bottle of water. Angel

Thread: Pancakes CAN be an authorized food! (49 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by BFL bride to be (21 posts) at 02:28 PM: Pancakes CAN be an authorized food!
Here's a recipe I use all the time: Cinnamon Protein Pancakes:

2 cups cottage cheese

2 cups egg substitute

2 1/2 cups old fashioned oats

2/3 cup Splenda

1/2 tsp baking soda

2 tsp cinnamon

2 tsp vanilla

Here's the key: Put all in a food processor or blender and blend until smooth (otherwise you have pancakes with CURDS in them- yuck!). Sometimes I add in a few frozen blueberries, raisins, or chopped walnuts to change the flavor a bit. Cook on a pancake griddle or fry pan sprayed with Pam until golden brown on both sides. Makes 6 3-pancake servings (each pancake about three to 4 inches in diameter, depending on how thick your batter is). Have fun. These freeze well, by the way. I freeze them on Sunday afternoon and toast them each morning before eating. On free day, I even put strawberry jam and peanut butter on them. Most often I just add a few fresh or frozen blueberries to each pancake as its cooking. Yummy! Even my kid likes these :) Per serving: 283 calories, 27 grams protein, 30 grams carbs, 6 grams fat!

Body for Life Forum Message by Coco (507 posts) at 02:40 PM:
i think the addition of baking soda is a great idea. the other protein pancake recipes i've seen don't have any leavener, which makes them thick and dense.

Body for Life Forum Message by BFL bride to be (21 posts) at 02:50 PM:
These are pretty fluffy in comparison, and everytime I heat them up at work, people say, "hey, what's that?"

Thread: Night Cravings (34 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by morpho_veja (10 posts) at 08:51 PM: Night Cravings

Body for Life Forum Message by morpho_veja (10 posts) at 08:54 PM:
Sorry, started a thread and didn't write my message! Anyway I am having a very hard time at night (I was a huge late night snacker) I have been drinking hot tea instead of eating - any other suggestions? I try to have my fifth meal by 7:00 and then I only drink a protein shake at 8:00 or 9:00. Please tell me I am not the only one battling this.

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 08:58 PM:
Are you having some fruit or something with your protein shake? Do you have EFL? There are some great "dessert" recipes in there that always helped my cravings at night, especially protein pudding (OMG it's good) and strawberry cheesecake.

Body for Life Forum Message by BGrego (3 posts) at 09:00 PM:
OMG! I was just going to make a post about this. Mine isn't so much night cravings, but more of not feeling satisfied with the amount of food I have eaten. This happens around meal #5 for me as well. I eat the appropriate portion sizes and I still don't feel full. What do I do? I drink at least 32 ounce of water in between/with meals, and I still do not feel satisfied or "full". Any suggestions?

Body for Life Forum Message by morpho_veja (10 posts) at 09:09 PM:
I don't eat fruit with my shake- are you suppose to?

Body for Life Forum Message by fitnesscrazedmom (39 posts) at 09:12 PM:
I am with J-Dub, I always make sure I have protein pudding on hand, I have one almost every night. Cures that chocolate craving eveyr time.

Body for Life Forum Message by morpho_veja (10 posts) at 09:32 PM:
I do have the book so I will start to make some of the desserts. Thank You!

Thread: Question about BFL Calculator (26 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Taneya (4 posts) at 09:31 PM: Question about BFL Calculator
I have just found the BFL Calculator (don't know why I didnt' see it before - today is my Day 7 of my first challenge), but I have a question. I thought it wise to get the collective input/expertise of others with more experience. I currently weigh about 295lbs (5'6") so I have a LOT to lose. However, according to the calculator, if I want to lose weight it is telling me I am supposed to eat 2950 calories a day! This has got to be wrong! In the past 7 days, my intake has averaged around 1700-1800 calories and I can't even imagine going that high. I do monitor my carb/protein/fat percentages and I see that I will need to try to get to 20% fat(been averaging 30%), but is the calories right? Any insight anyone can offer would be useful. Thanks! Taneya

Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (364 posts) at 09:57 PM:
Most people do what Bill says in the book. Use your hand to figure your portion sizes. I wouldn't worry about calorie counting at the first, at least. You should try to eat every 2-3 hours and the goal should be to just be hungry at that 2-3 hour mark. If you are starving...you are probably not eating big enough portions... if you're still not hungry... you are probably eating a bit too much. It takes about 4-6 weeks to really get into a good groove with the 5-6 meals thing. Just make good food choices, drink your water (at least a gallon), and get your 10s!!!

Just to play the devil's advocate... I'd say your 1700-1800 calories a day is a better number than nearly 3000! I eat around 1800 calories a day currently and I am a size 2/4.

The important thing is to do the program exactly as the book says.  Get in good workouts... try not to miss ANY... and eat just like he says.  If you do that, you will probably see AT LEAST two dress sizes go down in just your first challenge.  Amazing things happen!

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 10:21 PM:
Well, as someone with more to lose....you have to eat more to lose more. Follow the hand guidelines, but try logging it into fitday.com and see where you truely are. At about 300 more calories a week and see if you lose more with the increase food. I think you will find overall that you can eat more, you just have to adjust how much you eat as you lose weight. T

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Thread: Does painting count as cardio or UBWO :) ? (98 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by nola (49 posts) at 09:22 AM:
I have to agree that it IS a workout...not a HIIT of course, but it can be pretty intense. I go at a pretty swift pace and like Ursula said, up and down that ladder a gazillion times... I guess it's like walking....go at a slow pace and it's no better than everyday stuff, but speed things up and you've got a cardio session. Anyway, I'm not susbtituting just yet but I won't feel too guity about skipping a workout if I've painted all day. Eileen

Thread: Abs question?? (131 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by NORMAN (1 posts) at 05:13 PM:
I do them 5-6 times a week, if you still have pain in Abbs from last day training, take a one day rest to let the muscles build new fibers.

Thread: Buns of Steel (133 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 03:10 PM:
Buns of Steel...wow that is almost going back to the Leotard days!! Sounds like a Killer w/o tho' ! Good for you for finding a way to get that LBWO in!! I'm proud of you girl!!! Hugs Lala*

Thread: Do you get sore? (98 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:48 PM:
Man tom you need to tell that to my legs...I've been working out for a long time now and my legs are acting like they've never been used before! I walk like I have something stuck where it shouldn't be stuck Im so sore!

Thread: Great Cardio this am!! (45 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 03:06 PM:
Great to hear!! Funny what you think of Aiming for those 10's eh??! KEEP IT UP !! :)

Thread: Back exercises (75 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Northern Belle (102 posts) at 08:13 AM:
The difference between the lying triceps extension and the dumbbell pullover is as follows: Triceps extension: only the elbow flexes and the forearm moves up and down, working the triceps. Dumbbell pullover: the whole arm moves and the elbow doesn't flex as much, working the chest and upper back. One of the best back exercises is the spine strengthener. Balance yourself face down on your elbows and toes (knees for a beginner). Hold your body in a straight line from shoulders to heels. Keep your butt down in the line. Hold this position for as many seconds as you can, building up to 45-60 seconds. I did this one for years and it really built up my torso strength. Search the various sites for core exercises; most of them are done on the mat.

Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (10 posts) at 04:32 PM:
Northern Belle is right, lower back pain comes from a weak core. I have many back problems and have been seeing a spine specialist for awhile now. He swears that almost every one he sees who complains about low back pain has a very weak lower abdominal muscle. One of the exercises he has me do to strengthen this muscle is to lie on my side my legs straight (like a board) and a pillow between them, then I flex my abdominals and lift both legs off the floor, squeezing the pillow together hard so that someone can't pull it out. Hold for 4 to 10 seconds. After you have completed 5 to 10 reps, switch sides. It doesn't sound hard, but it is. Also, if she is having lower back pain, maybe her doctor can refer her to a physical therapist who specialize in spine problems.

Thread: Anyone else do cycling for cardio? (56 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by fromfat2firm (37 posts) at 05:51 AM:
I wouldn't call myself a cyclist but I take a spinning class every saturday and it whoops my butt (in a good way). I think it's a great cardio workout. Angel

Body for Life Forum Message by lis72 (10 posts) at 10:55 AM:
I feel in love with cycling about six months ago. Do about 10 miles each day now...will have to admit that I wasn't consistent in December. :-) Anyway, will continue to cycle on most days except those that I am doing the LBWO's. I think that would be way too much....although that's the area I feel my body need the most work.

Thread: The "rest" minute..do you do it and what to do during.... (185 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by nola (49 posts) at 01:07 PM: The "rest" minute..do you do it and what to do during....
I have been doing my 1 minute rest between sets, but it is hard sometimes. I'm pretty hyperactive anyway and sitting still waiting for the next set just feels wrong and can be a bit boring. Are you supposed to do NOTHING during the rest? Today I did my UBWO in my living room and during one rest minute, I went to the kitchen and peeled an egg. During another, I got out the rest of the ingredients for my tuna salad. I thought about unloading the dishwasher, but that would take more than 1 minute... Sometimes I try to do a stomach vacuum for at least 30 of the seconds (is this an ok thing to do during a "rest?") and I really have no idea what I do the other times other than just wait. I look around the gym sometimes and see all these people just SITTING there on the machines...doing their rest minutes too I suppose and it looks pretty funny sometimes. What do you do b/w sets? And do you really wait the full minute? Now to go unload the dishwasher for real...and eat my tuna... Eileen

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 01:27 PM:
Between sets, I spot my workout partner. I know, I've got it easy :D Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (52 posts) at 01:30 PM:
I use freeweights, so changing them takes a bit. We have a heavy bag in our workout room, do leg kicks (knee high, extend...) Stretch the muscle you are working. I do a lot of calf stretches to help limit heel spurs and shin splints.

Body for Life Forum Message by AngRoCamp (153 posts) at 01:34 PM:
I always have my Success Journal with me, so I use that minute to record the weights and my intensity level, re-read my 12 week goals, re-focus on my daily goals/plan, read a success story or two. Keeps me focused on my workout and why I'm doing this. And sometimes around level 8 or 9 I really need that minute to just lay or sit there and catch my breath :) ~Ang

Body for Life Forum Message by nurse36 (205 posts) at 01:54 PM:
****S***T**R*E**T***C****H!!!! Ahhhh! I think to myself... "Let's do it again... but push a little harder this time!!" Positive self- talk will get you miles and miles!!! :)

Body for Life Forum Message by twinmom (336 posts) at 01:55 PM:
I do ab work or get a drink of water. Sometimes I do not wait a full minute but rather only 30 seconds.

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:18 PM:
I only take 30 seconds, and in that 30 seconds I try to catch my breath, while walking around and getting a drink of water.

Body for Life Forum Message by Can'tStopMe (509 posts) at 03:21 PM:
I pull the underwear outta my ass.

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 03:22 PM:
yeah, I get water, rest, stretch or review my journal for my next set. I find that the 1 min really isn't a lot of time. I get "prepared" for my next set at 45 seconds so I am pushing at the 1 min mark.

Body for Life Forum Message by rainy (54 posts) at 03:25 PM:
haha. I fill out my BFL workout form on my lil clipboard, and drink water. Sometimes, I'll flip back and compare what I'm doing this workout to what I did at an earlier date to see how far I've come. ~ Jenn

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 03:30 PM:
I to used to be one of those nervous, fidgety, hyper, people. LOL. One time we added in Sprints in between each exercise uhhhh I will never forget that experience. I now enjoy that min to recoup and get ready to give it all I got. I try to get as relaxed as possible and concentrate on what muscles I ma working on and form. BTW I don't recommend sprinting in between sets lol. Try upping the weight and make them more challenging so you feel the need to recoup? ;-) Oh yes drink water in between is "great" advice as well.

Body for Life Forum Message by GetNFit (784 posts) at 03:31 PM:
I only rest 30 seconds in between sets.

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 03:32 PM: Re:
Can'tStopMe said: I pull the underwear outta my ass. Oh boy LMAO!!! Dear lord woman your killing me!

Body for Life Forum Message by nola (49 posts) at 03:40 PM:
My 4 y/o wants to know why I am laughing at the computer. I will definitely add the underwear pull to my goals for tomorrow. Thanks for the ideas...I sometimes do some ab work and stretches, just wasn't sure if I was supposed to really, really be doing NOTHING. Eileen

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 03:45 PM:
Can'tStopMe...that was hysterical! Thank you for waking me up! This job is a killer today!

Body for Life Forum Message by lis72 (10 posts) at 03:57 PM: Re:
Can'tStopMe said: I pull the underwear outta my ass. You are killing me...I can't stop laughing!!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by fromfat2firm (37 posts) at 04:36 PM:
I also rest under a min. I log the weight I used on my progress sheet while my gym/bfl buddy uses the machine. Sometimes I drink water or stretch if my muscles feel tight. Can'tStopMe, I also love the underwear pull. lol. It's a great arm stretch you know. Angel

Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1089 posts) at 04:55 PM:
I change it up but usually no break or only a short break.

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 06:48 PM:
I usually stretch & drink water. If I'm doing one side at a time, I don't take breaks in between. I like the underwear pull (LOL). Too funny! Sometimes, you just gotta do it!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (82 posts) at 07:07 PM:
Between changing my weights, trying to catch my breath, drinking my water, and performing the "Can'tStopMe" maneuver (what a hoot!), I have a hard time getting to my next set in a minute. I'm also TIRED and enjoying the minute. Are you sure you're lifting as hard as you should be?

Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (242 posts) at 08:50 PM:
It's fine to take 30 seconds between the first couple of sets. After that, you should be working hard enough that you need that minute to catch your breath. If you're not, UP THE WEIGHTS AND THE INTENSITY! While you're catching your breath, write in your journal and record the lifts and weights, or get the weights ready for the next set. If you really can't stand waiting, you can do supersets of opposing muscle groups. FOR EXAMPLE, while resting from biceps curls, you can do triceps pushdowns. Or, while resting from dumbbell presses, you can do dumbbell or cable rows. This is not the best use of your time, though, but it will help to get you in and out in about 35 minutes if you're really pressed for workout time.

Body for Life Forum Message by BGrego (3 posts) at 09:23 PM:
I use free weights so I change my weights and drink water.

Thread: Cardio and Weights-Same day? (86 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 04:02 PM: Cardio and Weights-Same day?
So if I do the Cardio and Weights on the same day....does that mean I still got in my workouts? And can I count this for the challenge competition we are having? This is not something I try to do, but I wanted/needed to make up a missed HIIT, so I do both on the same day (today). Also....any clue how many calories we/one person might burn during a weight training session? Just curious.

Body for Life Forum Message by Kela (129 posts) at 04:18 PM:
Im wondering the same thing.....if I miss I usually combine the workouts too. I know you arent suppose to be able to do much after a HIIT but I do my best if I have weights to accomplish after. Dosent seem to harm any. Waiting for another reply too!

Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (52 posts) at 04:33 PM:
I think if it is not a habit it is fine, and this contest is about doing your best, so I think that is fine as well but you should get agreement from others as well on that since I'm biased! Technical explanations are pretty good at the hussman site about how lifting, hiit and extra cardio work together. There are a few links so when you have a half hour to spare or can't sleep! http://www.hussmanfitness.org/html/TPBodyforLife.html#tweak Hope this helps!

Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1089 posts) at 04:53 PM:
ok in my opinion

Body for Life Forum Message by Reagiesmom (417 posts) at 05:15 PM:
I do it all the time. Also, according to my polar heart rate monitor I burned 93 calories last night during 45 min of UBWO. IT calculates this using sex, age, weight, and your heart rate as you work out.

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 06:04 PM:
I don't see a problem. I've done it before. Just try not to make a habit of it. I try not to do LBWO and HIIT on the same day though. That's too much stress on your legs. I guess if you have to do LBWO and HIIT, you can use a rowing machine for your cardio. I, personally, couldn't get a good cardio workout out of the rowing machine, but other people do. I guess it depends on the person.

Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (242 posts) at 06:16 PM:
I really think that trying to calculate a realistic calorie burn for a resistance training session--or any session for that matter--is useless. It depends on so many variables, your weight, your workload, your muscle bulk, how efficient your lungs are, the temperature of the room, whether you're using stimulants, that anything other than a ballpark estimate is impossible! However, I do think it's a good idea a few times to wear a Heart rate monitor because it helps to see just how high the heart rate can get if you do a resistance training session by the book with as much weight as you can handle. It helps to see that the 45 minutes of resistance training is done with the heart rate at a cardio effective level for over half the time. That's one of the reasons only three twenty minute cardio sessions are needed--because the heart and lungs get quite a workout during the lifting sessions.

Thread: LBWO (21 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by pk-rn (51 posts) at 04:50 PM: LBWO
I am finding it difficult to hit 10's on this. For quads, I am doing dumbbell squats (10,12,15,20,15 lbs.) and then leg press at 70 lbs. I could go up to 25 lb dumbells I guess but somehow those just seem to heavy to do squats with. Any suggestions??

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Thread: Has there been a recent favorite workout tunes thread? (389 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 08:55 PM:
Oh yeah, AC/DC is awesome, I need to get some more of that in my iPod. I realized that for weights I need more rock, less hip hop. :)

Thread: WHERE IS THE HANDICAP TOILET???? (175 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by hb9252 (Ellen) (30 posts) at 05:21 PM:
Ahhh yes, can't squat to pee syndrome! A friend of mine actually had her bathroom re-done in '03 when we were doing BFL for the first time and she had a handicapped toilet installed (just the high throne, not the hand rails) for that VERY reason!!

Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (263 posts) at 06:06 PM:
I could use a padded seat myself

Body for Life Forum Message by jps2lean (38 posts) at 11:12 PM:
hotbody, I like your analogy! lol

Thread: Free Day - What do you do? (301 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Lindyloo (41 posts) at 12:08 PM:
Last free day was AWESOME! I had to work-early and I had to work 15 hours. I had the energy to do so because I had a blueberry muffin in the morning, 2 pc of pizza at lunch time, when I got home I had 5 of my favorite cookies in the world...from Honolulu cookie company - shortbread - some were dipped in chocolate! Then we went to dinner and I had Mahi Mahi with garlic bread and acini pasta. I woke up Monday motivated, energized and ready to diet all week, and I feel GREAT! NO FOOD HANG OVER!!! Sometimes, the free day can really give you a break and a 'lift'. I think it sped up my metabolism, I am loosing weight this week for sure.

Body for Life Forum Message by fitnesscrazedmom (39 posts) at 02:17 PM:
Free day is what gets me through the rest of the week. If I have a craving for lets say a cheeseburger, whatever, it helps me to say to myself "I'm def. having that on free day". If I didn't have that to look forward to and was instead forced to say "I can't wait til I lose ALL this weight so I can have one" I would probably end up having it, feeling like crap and then blowng the whole diet.

Thread: C3 DONE!!! New Pics (390 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (1051 posts) at 10:03 AM:
Just wanted to acknowledge and thank the folks from Jim onward for their kind words and encouragement :) (easier than multiple pm's ) Everybody here truely are inspirational & 2006 is gonna be incredible. Yours in Humble Health Kerry

Thread: Important Question for team 8 team members! (126 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by stepor (52 posts) at 06:32 AM:
Thanks for the compliment Tara but Carla (crone) is the one that did all the work. The spreadsheet is passed to all of us that volunteered to track numbers. So Carla, if you read this, Thanks again from the bottom of my heart. You are a special person to coordinate for those whoe are not in your inner circle! I have updated the spreadsheet that is online, so if you want to verify the numbers are correct and email me any mistakes, please feel free to do so. I have unblacked out the remaining two members so we are all visible! Steve

Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2953 posts) at 02:18 PM:
where is the spread sheet and how do you get to see it?

Body for Life Forum Message by harleyman69 (44 posts) at 02:32 PM:
Steve posted the website. Let me see if I can find it for ya right quick. Craig

Body for Life Forum Message by harleyman69 (44 posts) at 02:34 PM:
Here is the link with all our info on it. Once again, GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! http://www.geocities.com/stepor/Competition_Original_1_.htm

Thread: pictures are up and not too pretty (250 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Courtney1978 (11 posts) at 11:50 AM:
Got my modivation this morning. I have lost 6 pounds. 6 down ONLY 119 to go. Sounds better the 125 to go right!!! I know that was water that I lost but you know what it still feels good!!! Talk to you all later.

Body for Life Forum Message by scrappinmichelle (21 posts) at 11:59 AM:
I second what everyone said! We are here for you all the way! Go get em girl!

Thread: Who is entering the Lifers cruise contest??? (212 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ashtrash (383 posts) at 01:01 AM:
bump

Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2953 posts) at 02:12 PM:
still bumping

Thread: Anyone Else Having This Problem? (183 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (707 posts) at 11:01 PM:
Thanks all! To answer some questions...my eating is really evenly spaced out and I get all six meals in every day. I am already anemic, but I have different symptoms when I'm having problems with my iron levels. And my iron levels have been really good since starting BFL. My sugar level was low on my last bloodwork, and the doc made a comment about it, but didn't seem too concerned. After seeing her today, she said it didn't sound like a potassium deficiency (which she has already been checking because I've been on a water retention medication for quite some time). She said it is more than likely that my sugar levels are taking a dip after lunch because of what I'm eating for lunch. Today I had my apple with my lunch instead of with my morning snack and I was much better. I'm just going to have to play with the foods a while till I have it down pat to make sure my sugar intake is evenly spread out as well. It's a relief to know that it's an easy fix! Jennifer

Thread: I think I just gave away $20. Cripes. (257 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (1051 posts) at 04:56 PM:
Well, I'm not so sure.... If a 200 lb person lost 20 lbs that's 10 % of body weight, if you lose 16 lbs, you would win as the % of body weight lost by you would be higher than 10%. Anyway, go to it, and success to you. Yours in Health, Kerry

Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (555 posts) at 06:36 PM:
Maybe you could bring cobblers to work everyday and put them in the teachers' lounge?

No...BAD idea. Those folks don't need you to spend more money on them.  *wink*

Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (82 posts) at 06:40 PM:
I thought about bringing dessert to the lounge every day, but then I'd have to figure out how to get it from my house to the school without it accidentally falling in my mouth. Kerry, that's true, but our contest is only 2 months, and I think at my size, it will be hard to lose 2 lbs. week. Or am I wrong? By the way, Cobbler Woman admitted she succumbed again last night. AND she had a meeting with a cake decorator for her daughter's wedding today, and she's going to be sampling. MUAHAHAHA!

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 06:41 PM:
Ooooooh you are so going to WIN!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by Hot Body (555 posts) at 06:46 PM:
Sheesh. Sounds like someone needs to teach Cobbler Woman some remedial math, particularly the difference between plus and minus.

Body for Life Forum Message by Nicabod (82 posts) at 06:57 PM:
Cobbler Woman made me very angry today at work, so I am quite gleeful when I hear of her "progress" on her diet. That is not very nice of me, but oh, so true. I hope the rest of my competition is faring as well as Cobbler Woman.

Thread: Need your opinion (263 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Phoenix (56 posts) at 07:20 AM:
Thanks guys. Yes I have been on different antibiotics, the pill, accutane, the pill and accutane at the same time. (lots of side effects on that one) and lots of different creams. The creams damaged the top layer of my skin and are now sensitive to normal creams etc.I have been to different dermotoligists. I am now since yesterday on a restrictive diet, no bread and sugars. Have to eat at the same times everyday. I will continue exercising because thinking about it helps eliminate stress and makes me feel good. Thanks for all the advise. I really appreciate it.

Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (10 posts) at 04:53 PM:
I hope changing the diet helps. Many people have undetected food sensitivities, but do much better when they discover what to stay away from. Good luck! Let us know how things are going. Kathy

Body for Life Forum Message by Kela (129 posts) at 05:37 PM:
Im sure you have already done this...but if you wear face make-up try changing it. I now use BareMinerals by Bare Essencials....what a difference that has made on my face. Just a thought.

Thread: Mommy...Where is CARDIO HIIT HEAVEN??? (203 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 02:49 AM:
Great post BULL! I think you missed the Cardio SHAKERS... you drive you self through the Grueling last few minutes & then you get off with MEGA Jello legs & God forbid you try to do anything with writing or typing cause your hands are shaking so hard from the adrenalin rush! That was ME today! ;)

Thread: BFL and Depression (183 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (243 posts) at 12:38 PM:
I can attest to BFL helping with depression. I have been off my meds (was on for more than 18 months) and I am doing really well! Some bumps here and there...but I'm really happy!!

Body for Life Forum Message by rainy (54 posts) at 01:37 PM: Re: BFL and Depression
I used to on meds for an anxiety disorder, but I find that BFL helps better than they ever did. Also "cured" me of bulimia. Last time I purged was last July. Onto new and healthier habits! ~ Jenn

Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (243 posts) at 01:38 PM:
That is awesome Jenn! yay!

Body for Life Forum Message by I*witness (1 posts) at 01:55 PM:
I too have struggled with depression and anxiety and health problems due to it (chronic headaches, irregular periods, stomach upset, etc.). I am just starting challenge 2 today and I've found during my first challenge that my depression really lifted. In fact, one of my goals is to get off meds completely. It's normal to have bad days, but hopefully through positive reinforcement and trying to have a good outlook that will help you. Good luck!

Thread: Where are your GOALS????? (112 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 01:44 AM:
On my fridge; she's beautiful but she's in jail!!!! LOL What a goal!!!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 02:38 AM:
Great Idea Janel! OH Flower!! you do aspire to such heights!! ~lol

Body for Life Forum Message by fromfat2firm (37 posts) at 05:47 AM:
I have my goals up next to the free calendar I got with Oxygen magazine. Each month has a different fitness competitor with an awesome body and fitness tips. I put a star on each day I workout. I'm also doing the bodyforlifers 12 week challenge so I made a chart to log my weight each week. Hopefully, I stay motivated and see great progress!! Angel

Thread: Rude at the gym (315 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (138 posts) at 06:23 AM:
If he could alternate hack squats and leg presses, he wasn't working hard enough. What a wuss.

Body for Life Forum Message by Muscle Head (28 posts) at 07:13 AM:
You should pound the girlie-man next time Jess .... hehe :)

Body for Life Forum Message by harleyman69 (44 posts) at 07:17 AM:
That's the very reason I quit the gym and started working out at home. I don't own any weights. I built a few homemade gadgets and use bricks and cinder blocks for weights.

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 07:17 AM:
Hee hee! Maybe I could get a whole UBWO out of this guy: I'll bench press him, deadlift him, and then use him as a punching bag. :) Yeah, that's the ticket!

Body for Life Forum Message by HaremGirl2006 (9 posts) at 08:35 AM:
I have a pretty funny story about the gym. So, there's this guy at the gym... mid twenties and SUPER muscular. This kid has muscles on his muscles and he knows it. He's always walking around with an attitude and is very rude... So, one day my Dad goes into the gym. Now what you have to know about him is that my Dad wears baggy sweats so you can't see what his body looks like... but he is fit. He works out all the time and (for the most part) eats right. (He is an inspiration to me - I'm trying to get him to do Bfl too). Anyway, this kid goes over and climbs on the bike next to my dad who has just completed his warm up. He's kind of smirking like he's thinking "I'm gonna dust this old guy". So they start pedaling. And my Dad is amazing on the bike. Anyway, the kid keeps looking over to my Dad's bike and is trying so hard to keep up with him. But he can't!!! LOL. He gives up with sweat pouring down his face and my Dad is still pedaling away. The kid walks away in a huff - defeated by someone double his age!!! LOL... I was so proud!!!

Thread: I once was lost but now am found! (228 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 01:48 AM:
Nice to have ya back!!!!

Body for Life Forum Message by scrappinmichelle (21 posts) at 07:18 AM:
Welcome back! I'm new here but I too lost a lot of weight prepregnancy through BFL and gained all of it back plus more. Now I'm beginning the challenge again. Cheers to us for finding our way back to BFL! By the way, I love your last sentence too! Very inspiring!

Body for Life Forum Message by Muscle Head (28 posts) at 07:20 AM:
Good to see you back RJA !

Body for Life Forum Message by twinmom (336 posts) at 08:13 AM:
I too did the same thing you did, RJA. I gained some weight back after losing it. It is embarrassing but at least you are back. Good luck, Annette

Body for Life Forum Message by Pixy (389 posts) at 08:32 AM:
Hey welcome back. Now you know so stick around ;)

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 11:18 AM:
Welcome Back! Sounds like you did the same thing A LOT of us did! Now lets hit it for the New YEAR! Hugs Lala*

Body for Life Forum Message by Booloo (7 posts) at 11:43 AM:
The same thing happened to me, RJA. We moved back in June, and that was it. I thought I'd give myself a little break, get things unpacked and try to get settled in, and weeks stretched into months. I gained a humiliating 20lbs!!! I'm back in gear, and it sounds like you are ready to hit it hard. Rock on! Heather

Body for Life Forum Message by RJA (160 posts) at 12:01 PM:
Thanks so much,for the responses. This site was def the last step in me making a full comeback. Again great to see alot fo the old names and even greater to see new ones. This time its for keeps!

Body for Life Forum Message by RJA (160 posts) at 12:01 PM:
Thanks so much,for the responses. This site was def the last step in me making a full comeback. Again great to see alot fo the old names and even greater to see new ones. This time its for keeps!

Thread: cruise challenge is giving you more time (84 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by ashtrash (383 posts) at 01:00 AM:
c'mon, guys, we need more people!

Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2953 posts) at 02:16 PM:
we have 40, need at least 100, come on lets' GET*HER*DONE!! This is for anybody and everybody, you got a chance to WIN 2 tickets to the cruise and a good chance to win with only 150 people or so, so Join up NOW, deadline is Jan 15th GO SIGN UP AN GET*HER*DONE!!

Thread: wondering, Did any of the champs like Mina have loose skin taken off (242 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (720 posts) at 04:38 PM:
okay....we are talking total weight loss of 33 pounds? Or was that just in one challenge? How many challenges did she do? Teresa

Thread: Motivated, Inspired, all over AGAIN!!!! (190 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 01:58 AM:
PM sent

Body for Life Forum Message by bethkk (236 posts) at 10:09 AM:
Hey, BB, can I borrow yours some time?!!? I just keep hearing about how amazing these are...I would love that kind of inspiration right now!

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 11:51 AM:
Oh good I'd love to watch then too! Flower you just get em back in the country! then send them West young man! ( ok woman! ~lol)

Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (662 posts) at 12:00 PM:
I watch mine all the time and they STILL make me cry!!!!

Thread: Anyone hungry after 2 hours? (188 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2237 posts) at 02:03 AM:
I've been so hungry at 2 hours I feel almost ravenous but I have gone 3. It really depends. One thing is if I eat some raw veggies after my meal it seems to help a bit. I can never believe my eyes when I see people write "too much food, I can't eat it". I always think "oh you poor thing" LOL - I WISH that was my problem!

Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (138 posts) at 06:13 AM:
I can usually go 2.5 hours without too much trouble, but at three hours, watch out! I drink coffee in the am so I think that may help suppress my hunger somewhat. And, yes, I drink a s-load of water.

Body for Life Forum Message by leankat (10 posts) at 01:52 PM:
I am sometimes hungry after one hour! I try to drink more water, but if that doesn't help, I just eat early. I find that I'm not really very hungry at night if I eat regularly during the day. My family isn't too happy because I don't feel like making dinner, but I find I cook smaller,more nutritious meals for dinner and then pack one for my lunch the next day. I am hoping I will not be as hungry as soon in the future.

Body for Life Forum Message by akladydi (7 posts) at 05:20 PM:
Well this afternoon was the first time I was able to go the full 3 hours and then I had to force myself to have something. I am wondering if it depends on how hard you work out. I had an excellent (best one yet) LBW this morning. Maybe that is the key? And sometimes I am hungry after and hour too. Anyways thanks to all who have responded.

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 06:12 PM:
I also get hungry after 2 hours. I try to lots of water to hold me over to 2.5 hours. Also, I drink coffee with skim milk and tiny bit of splenda which seems to help. I heard that if you eat food with low glycemic index (ie: whole grains) for carbs, that might help you stay full longer? I'm not an expert though.

Thread: please someone send me some support- my friends r tired of me trying new diets (216 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by J-Dub (204 posts) at 08:42 AM:
WOoooooooo! Good for you! Use us as your support system, and don't even discuss your diet/exercise with the non-believers until they are supporting you, too. Here's to a great day 3!

Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (1153 posts) at 08:56 AM:
I promise you stick with it and this will be the LAST one you will ever be on though this is not a fad diet. It is a way of life. It will change your life! BTW my husband did not really support me during my 3rd attempt at it. He was like your gonna quit. He believed in BFL just not in me. Oooohhhh that kicked into high gear for me. Now it has been about 1 year on BFL and I have other fitness plans in the works! Can I give you a little advice... Believe in yourself first! Who cares what anyone else thinks as you progress and get better they will see the proof that this is no fad diet and that you are serious. You won't be hard to miss because about after 4 weeks on BFL you'll be this giddy happy go lucky person full of positive energy. BTW: We all believe in you! If you need support we are all here for you! Work hard, Workout even HARDER! -T

Body for Life Forum Message by Suz2lose (27 posts) at 09:07 AM:
Lets make a promise that when discouraged....vent your frustrations in your workout. Get you some kickarse tunes and get it done! Don't let people discourage or sway you from your dreams. You made a choice to change how you look/eat/live - keep up the good work - pegs. Need a motivator...call on us!

Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (242 posts) at 09:27 AM:
This thread I think validates the points I was trying to make on the guestbook yesterday. The best approach, when you've failed to keep self-promises and others know that, is to just not say anything and get it done! Let your results do the talking for you. It doesn't help to complain about lack of support from others when past behavior shows that you don't support yourself. We all get so danged excited about BFL because we know it's not just another diet, but nobody's going to believe that or believe in us unless we show them rather than tell them how good it really is!

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 09:27 AM:
To me, BFL is NOT a diet...It's a way of life! Ignore your friend. Use this as a motivation and PROVE HIM WRONG!

Body for Life Forum Message by MelJ113074 (7 posts) at 09:59 AM:
I'm right there with in your strugle for support. I know my husband doesn't believe I can do it, so he just says nothing about it. Then a couple hours ago I practically had to rumble with a coworker who wanted me to eat peice of her bagle. I can't wait for the results to speak for themself. Melissa

Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (547 posts) at 10:08 AM:
Once again...the wise words of MASTER MIKE ring true!! TNT also makes a CRUCIAL point-you have to believe in YOURSELF!! No matter how much "outside" support or non support you recieve-the changes WONT happen if you dont beleive they will and work for it. Keep your self promises ...and I PROMISE you -your ENTIRE LIFE will change in such a phenomenal way!! You can do this!!

Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (287 posts) at 10:09 AM:
Don't prove it to him that you can do it...prove it to yourself. Surround yourself with people who support you. If that means making new friends, so be it. I have said it before and I'll say it again....having a local support system, meaning not cyber-local but in your town, is a tremendous help in staying truw to BFL, even when you get down, get sick, or get discouraged. Find someone locally who will support you. Is there someone at the gym you are friendly with? That may be a place to start makign new friends who have the same outlook on life.

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 10:41 AM:
Use his comments as motivation. Now you CAN'T quit! You have no choice but to see it done!! Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1345 posts) at 10:46 AM:
Hey Peg, Here is your chance to prove it to yourself that YOU CAN DO IT!!!!! Don't give up!!!! Hang in there!!!! Hugs, Sylvia aka Cookie1135

Body for Life Forum Message by Booloo (7 posts) at 11:38 AM:
Peg, you will always find the support you need here. YOU CAN DO IT!!!! Heather

Body for Life Forum Message by ~Lala~ (744 posts) at 11:47 AM:
Way to make it throught that first hurdle! You DO have the support here... WE will see ya later! ;) Let prove the disbelievers wrong!

Body for Life Forum Message by pegs (10 posts) at 11:48 PM:
Well it's day three, my arms r sore, my legs wanna cave in and i feel like i hit atleast 9 during my cardio- FEELS LIKE SWEET SUCCESS to me. You guys have been great. Not having my usual pint of icecream to turn me is allowing me a chance to deal with my problems head on. That is a good thing. I want to attack my emotional eating and I know BFL will help. I just can't believe that i'm eating portioned control meals. I dont know if im hitting the calories but im really trying and by next week i know i will find my groove with the eating thing. I think what im learning so far about myself is that I am stronger than i think i am. So yes, I believe in myself. I WILL DO THIS FOR ME. I dont want to TALK ABOUT IT I WANT TO BE ABOUT IT- yaayyyy :)

Thread: Pictures finally posted (265 Views)

Body for Life Forum Message by Reagiesmom (417 posts) at 09:45 AM:
WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!! Great job! Your abs look GREAT.

Body for Life Forum Message by vitameatavegimin gal (8 posts) at 12:44 PM:
you are all so AWESOME !!!! Thank you for the support...I now realize how wonderful it is to hear from others and I will make sure I encourage others the same way

Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (243 posts) at 12:47 PM:
You look great! Way to go!

Body for Life Forum Message by Tomcat1066 (128 posts) at 12:50 PM:
WOW!!! Awesome job!!! I only HOPE to have results that dramatic! Tom

Body for Life Forum Message by LincolnJenn (20 posts) at 12:57 PM:
Inspiring.

Body for Life Forum Message by chantal2bfit (38 posts) at 01:38 PM:
Great job! Keep rockin'!

Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2407 posts) at 01:50 PM:
you are rocking! Back fat is gone, I can see stomach lines from the side. woohoo - week 12 photos are going to be exciting for you!

Body for Life Forum Message by rainy (54 posts) at 06:09 PM:
wow, big changes. you look great!

Body for Life Forum Message by BIG BULL (879 posts) at 06:17 PM:
Nice work V-gal!

Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1345 posts) at 06:29 PM:
Amazing progress!!!!! You look