Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (1 posts) at 11:42 PM
I take a ScoobyDo kids chewable multivitamin. Seriously.
I kept forgetting to take mine, and now I actually look forward to it :) It has all the standard stuff, including iron & folic acid (which my doctor said I needed), plus tastes good. Take whatever works for you!
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (30 posts) at 01:50 AM
I have an office desk diary, which I feel is easier for me with meal plannings, workouts etc .It works great for me, as I can monitor and refer back whenever I need to. Also helps me pinpoint if anything triggers cravings, Sometimes even while watching t.v ,I sit with my diary and plan the next day.Good luck and do what works for you.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 03:58 PM
Betagen. Good stuff, that.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 05:23 PM
Currently I only use original phosphagen. I mix it with gatoraid powder...good stuff.
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (106 posts) at 06:17 PM
does betagen already have the clr or whatever that c-thing is your suppose to take with it?
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2062 posts) at 12:56 AM
I so appreciate all of your prayers and I am in the beginning of this long process. First the evaluations, you are assigned a case worker, kind of a advocate for you... Try and get a program called pickels?? and Respite, which will give me time to myself... and even with this, there are a lot of politics involved...I had a friend come over and walk me thru the steps, what the system can and can't do so they can't mess with me.... I am glad she came over, her son is much worse than Cameron, he repeats everything, yells out and he is 8, even though it about killed me when they told me, I know he is not as far along as her son... God help her. She has went thru so much already.. Well my son has konked out on me already so I better get the sleep I can get until he wakes up... Later all
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (30 posts) at 01:58 AM
I agree with Ice-skaters last para.Americans are so lucky, you have it all right there. I visited the States twice and enjoyed both experiences. My fav place being San Francisco....Loved it...and the gorgeous Van nes beach in L.A... but my lasting memory is of Las Vegas, It took me couple months to pay off my credit card....and NO, I DIDNT HIT THE BIG ONE.
Body for Life Forum Message by Phoenix (47 posts) at 04:41 AM
Don't kill me for these questions, actually do . I like open and honest opinions. :-D I know these are stereo types and that you might not personally feel like it but do you think the stereo type is there?
1) We get the impression that Americans can sue for everything and anything. For instance have any one watched Judge Julie or Amy or something like that. I always thougth it's really funny that imported appliances have messages like: Warning: Do not touch the iron when hot. Until I heard that a women in the USA sued MCD'S becuase she burend her mouth becuase the coffe was hot. She won because no where did MCd's have warnings that coffee is hot. Is it true that you can easily sue or is it Urban legends and depending on in which state your in.
2) From the Oprah show it almost seem that most women are house wifes and that their is a real negative feeling towards mother's, women that work full time. It's just a question, true or false.
Thanks for all the responses. I can't wait till I get to visit their.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 06:03 AM
1) Youre right and it makes me sick
2) Oprah is on in the middle of the day. She has to cater to house wifes because there are the only people home to watch her show..everyone else is at work
Body for Life Forum Message by Ursula (609 posts) at 07:47 AM
1) You are pretty correct on that one. People sue for the stupidest things.
2) I don't know what the percentage is on housewives in this country. I don't know a lot of other moms that don't work. I am a housewife myself, but don't watch Oprah, I just play on the computer all day ;) I think that working mom's get jealous because they want to be home with the kids, and they have to work and take care of the housework too. Housewives are jealous because they would like to talk to adults during the day, that and a pay check would be nice.
A few questions for you.
What is your average snack food?
What is your weather like?
What is your most common house pest?
Hope these don't sound to silly :)
Urs
Body for Life Forum Message by Phoenix (47 posts) at 11:16 AM
Thanks guys. Thats not silly questions at all.
Snack food: My favourite is rusks. I don't know if you get it over there. It's like a sweet bread that you dry and dip in coffee. You can make it whole weat etc.
Weather: In Johannesburg we have hot sunny summers. -+27 C don't know what that is in ferenheit. And winters are not to cold. Usually a jacket and scarf is enough. I always hope it will get colder. Otherwise we are famous for our thunder storms that usually hits in the afternoons, sometimes they include hail. And that is the worst weather we get hear. We are really lucky.
House pest: mmm..I guess ants,mice, cockrouches. And if you have pets, fleas might come to visit. But we don't get to many of the above.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 07:53 AM
amkazen
you know I like banana's ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 08:10 AM
Hmm, you ask for naked pictures of women and you wonder why some people get upset. What class you have there.
This is one of the reasons I dont post on this board much anymore. This is supposed to be a motivational website devoted to BFL. Take this shit somewhere else. Try alt.com
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:21 AM
chuck, get a grip man.....c'mon
it's all in fun
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 08:25 AM
Believe me I'm all for fun and naked pictures but this is not the place for all that. Keep it to the PMs or something.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:27 AM
HE started it.....we're just playing along
can't put naked pictures on here anyway
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:38 AM
if you could, I think ya'll would be in trouble
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 08:49 AM
FYI Chucky this is a "off-topic" thread for issues not directly related to BFL....so if you don't like it go away....and trust me, those of us who play here get TONS of motivation and support!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:50 AM
especially "support"
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 08:52 AM
Good mornin' little lady! How ya doin' today! I got your back "dawg" don't want you having to deal with party poopers all by yourself now do I???
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:06 AM
this thread is getting so long......takes forever to show it's ugly little head
we need a new thread....got any ideas >:)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:09 AM
How about Don't Open Unless You Like to Play!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:12 AM
sounds like a plan.......or it could just say
"warning, naked women"
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:14 AM
I love that.....
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:16 AM
I came up with that just for chuckie
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (146 posts) at 09:18 AM
"warning: naked women" is fabulous. Somebody else has to start it though since I got enough grief for this one! lol
Good morning ladies
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:19 AM
Good morning hottie...I'll start it, I love adversity!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:21 AM
not if I get there first
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (146 posts) at 09:25 AM
chuckdiesel99 said:
Believe me I'm all for fun and naked pictures but this is not the place for all that. Keep it to the PMs or something.
Ok everyone PM me!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:27 AM
careful what you ask for
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (1978 posts) at 01:29 AM
I like it too. If I was to change it the only thing I'd do would be to grow it and put blonde highlites in it not darker or redder. Go for the curly Sarrah Jessica Parker look. JMO
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:24 AM
actually, I like your hair
you and I have the same cut/style....mine's just straight where you have all those beautiful curls
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:25 AM
BTW......I have an appt. after work today for new color
told her I might want a cut too.....I always say that and end up with a trim and the same style, damn it !
Body for Life Forum Message by 3D (25 posts) at 08:41 AM
WOW!!!! What a great thing to wake up to! Thank you everyone. I really thought I wouldn't get much of a response. So, I guess I'm just being too critical of myself. What else is new? I'll keep it like this for now. I'm not really ready to cut it but when I do I just LOVE Oprah's curly short 'do'. And Mike...well I guess you're just out of luck! Again, thank you everybody. You guys are all so nice! By the way, everyone once in a blue moon I straighten my hair. I wear it straight for about 2-3 days and then I can't stand it anymore. It gets in my mouth when I eat and brush my teeth and frankly, the curly works better with my teeny little face.
Body for Life Forum Message by focusss (2 posts) at 01:44 PM
Are bangs out?? I need to get out more often lol. My hair is practical identical to yours but im brunette. I need my bangs to hide my wrinkles!!
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (146 posts) at 01:49 PM
I'll lend the younger perspective on things. I like your hairstyle. I think the bangs that go straight across your forehead at eyebrow level are out. Yours work well though. No need to change.
Body for Life Forum Message by 3D (25 posts) at 02:11 PM
Jeremy: I checked out that link and it's funny because that's pretty much my cut, except mine is curly!
Body for Life Forum Message by 3D (25 posts) at 02:13 PM
Flower: Actually, on Thursday I am getting some blond highlights in the front. My hair is highlighted blond already but sometimes fades to a reddish which I don't like. I'd love my brunette hair again but I have so much gray now that it would really be noticeable in about a week. So, blond and curly really does a good job of hiding those horrid, too early for gray roots! Oh yeah, I LOVE Sarah Jessica Parker's hair. I used to watch Sex and the City just to see her hair. Sad. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Momentquo (27 posts) at 02:16 PM
I think the bald look on women is very sexy!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 02:17 PM
3D - check out The Hair Styler: http://www.thehairstyler.com/
You can upload a picture of yourself and try out about every style and color imaginable. It's 14 bucks I think, for a year membership and unlimited testing, but hey, it's entertainment, for sure! It's about as addictive as this site.
Have fun. And by the way, I think your hair is adorable, even if I can understand the drive to change what we already have and experiment with different styles.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 02:18 PM
Momentquo....your so funny
Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (105 posts) at 12:13 AM
Ok, off to bed. I hope everyone has a good day, workout, and enjoys their food!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:15 AM
Dang boy don't you know how important rest and recovery are! You need to get some sleep!!!!
=)
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:17 AM
that's what night time is for......sleep
so you can PLAY during the day
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:18 AM
Speaking of....there is you "play mate" now amkazen ;P
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:28 AM
he's still sleeping
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:32 AM
I would be too!
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (28 posts) at 05:17 AM
I had posted the following in another forum and did not receive any responses. Perhaps I posted it in the wrong place. Anyway, I thought I would try here to see if anyone had any suggestions:
Ever since Muscle Media went out of business, I am hesitant as to reading another fitness magazine. Especially ones geared toward men. I've looked at a few, and they either seem to go from being aimed at the "Be as big as you can be" to "How to dress for success and drive your woman crazy, and oh yeah, here's a fitness article so we can label ourselves as a fitness magazine."
That's what I liked about MM, it was geared towards overall fitness, and not trying to be some gigantic hulk.
Any suggestions?
Body for Life Forum Message by kmachate (619 posts) at 05:31 AM
Nope.
Body for Life Forum Message by Darrell (226 posts) at 05:51 AM
I picked up a handful of mags the other day, first time ever. They all say about the same things. The only thing to look out for, most of them have ads disguised to look like articles. So be careful what you're reading!
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 05:57 AM
They are all pushing suppliments so they all suck.
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 07:42 AM
they all repeat themselves..MM repeated themself too..i mean, how many different articles can you write about the bicep curl :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 07:59 AM
I agree; the fitness magazines for women seem to be geared more towards physical fitness than the men's magazines.
I subsribe to Fitness & Shape Magazines for women and there always something NEW in them.
Men's magazines......always the same old crap with alot of advertisements.
Body for Life Forum Message by She Bear (38 posts) at 09:10 AM
I love Oxygen - expensive but worth it!
Body for Life Forum Message by Jen in Maine (27 posts) at 06:16 AM
Two things I'm thinking about! Has anyone else noticed how different everything tastes after being off sugar and processed foods? I have had this tea before called Celestial Seasonings Honey Vanilla Chamomile and thought it was kinda plain. Well, I had it yesterday and it tasted so sweet to me! I just don't need sugar anymore and I love it. And I was also wondering...anyone seen Narnia yet??? I'm wondering if my kids would handle the battle scenes okay or if I should screen it first. I'd love to just take them but would not love to go back to bad dreams and a bed full of little bodies every morning! My kids would not be able to handle those Lord of the Rings battle scenes if that gives you an idea. So who saw this movie??? :)
Body for Life Forum Message by anavywife (151 posts) at 07:39 AM
I saw the movie last friday and thought it was pretty mild. There were a lot of kids in there and they all seemed to be okay. The battles were not as bad as you might imgaine. It showed some blood but nothing much. Its a cute, kinda cheesy movie, so I assume, most kids will really like it. We enjoyed it but the actors just weren't the best:) Hope you all enjoy! Have you read the book yet? We have been reading it to eachother for a month or so now. We are really having fun!
Crystal
Body for Life Forum Message by sas (12 posts) at 09:57 AM
I saw the movie over the weekend too and am pretty sensitive, covered my eyes through all the battle scenes and the when Aslan... well I won't say incase you don't know. I am 34 and love the books as a girl, and loved the movie... my husband on the other hand was bored :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by time4change (5 posts) at 10:17 AM
My boys are 4 1/2 and 6 and they LOVED the movie. The battle scenes do not come out as bad at some other movies we have seen. I thought it was a wonderful movie and would buy it. We are homeschoolers and so we don't see alot of violent things in the first plays so... I hope you enjoy it! Blessings
Body for Life Forum Message by Jen in Maine (27 posts) at 04:37 PM
Thanks you guys! Yes, we have all the books and I read each of them in about a day (they are so much fun). My kids have only read the second book - The Lion, Witch, and Warddrobe. I think the only thing that will annoy me about the movie is when it steers away from the original story...but I can deal with that for the fun of SEEing the story, you know?
I think I will end up just taking the kids - and thanks for the 'reviews'!!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 04:50 PM
I can't wait to see this either, Jen. This is definitely one of the ones that we'll see in the theater. Most movies we wait until they come out on DVD..
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 09:24 AM
naked women?? where? LOL
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:27 AM
Bump...oh yeah, I said it...BUMP
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:27 AM
bump THIS Mellie
you win, yours got there first
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:31 AM
You're just a little thug!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:33 AM
excuse me????
that's little HO, to you
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:39 AM
My bad baby girl.....it won't happen again!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:40 AM
just see that it doesn't.
don't make me come all the way out the New Mexico to smack that ass, 'kay ?
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 09:41 AM
soooo come on now....whats next? LOL
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:42 AM
Now everyone's all messed up with two threads...geez!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:44 AM
it is very nice, and yes ma'am I would
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:44 AM
Tiger, when's your birthday?
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 09:45 AM
Mellie..are you talking to me or agent?
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:46 AM
yeah, she calls me TIGER all the time
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 09:47 AM
We'll make Ohio middle ground do that agent 69 and Mellie can go at it in the mudpit. Tiger will be closer enough to referee.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:48 AM
LOL... that was funny! Tigermuscle I am talking to you....damn it, Im laughing hysterically over here
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:49 AM
oh hell, we'll need more than one referee
one to call the fouls, one to hold me, one to hold her and one to take pictures
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:51 AM
Good luck
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 09:51 AM
want to make a Tiger sandwhich? :)
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 09:51 AM
Buckeyeboy won't be too far, we can always call amodellawyer.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:53 AM
Where ever there is talk of naked women or thread with my or agents name...Amod is THERE! No worries....he'll be here soon!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:55 AM
don't tease me
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 09:56 AM
I always think of him too when I see both of your names. I als; think of that penis thread, Shall we revive it?
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:59 AM
Penis thread????? I don't believe I was part of that one!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tmbrwolf (12 posts) at 10:02 AM
Body for Life Forum Message by Tmbrwolf (12 posts) at 10:03 AM
Hey Agent 69 do you see me?
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:03 AM
ow, Mr. Wolf.,......you almost got it, try again
Body for Life Forum Message by Tmbrwolf (12 posts) at 10:06 AM
Well???
Body for Life Forum Message by gettintoned (4 posts) at 10:09 AM
OMG! Ok you guys... I havent posted before but you managed to draw me out with this one.... I am laughin my butt off over here!
Thanks for the chuckle
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:10 AM
not a problem, glad we could help.
after all it is the holiday season so accept this for what it is
a GIFT
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:11 AM
Thanks for laughing and seeing the humor...unfortunately there are a lot of people out there who are too stuck up to enjoy life a little and have fun! Life is short....live it that way!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 10:22 AM
Laughter is the best medicine. Makes you live longer.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:25 AM
Lo just love you crone....let's go have a bud light
Body for Life Forum Message by gettintoned (4 posts) at 10:26 AM
Hey mellie.. i noticed you were having bloating issues on your recovery supps. How are you liking the new stuff
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:36 AM
Nice, now that's a sexy subject! LOL...so what I did was cute back on the betagen, I have one scoop after workout in the morning and one at night before bed and bought the Cytovol which helps with recovery without Creatine and I am MUCH better, and still recovering well...I think I finally have my supplements dialed in!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:37 AM
I put cute....lol...I mean I CUT back on betagen, Sorry Im a little riled up right now!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:38 AM
oh, don't be riled up......just move on
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:39 AM
tryin
Body for Life Forum Message by gettintoned (4 posts) at 10:41 AM
Thank you Miss Mellie.. I am doing amino acids only right now and I am contemplating adding new stuff
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 10:41 AM
come on..dont worry about things Mellie..youre just too "cute" all because of your betagen! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by gettintoned (4 posts) at 10:42 AM
thanks again for the laugh all... loggin out!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:44 AM
Miss Mellie......too funny, I think of Gone with the Wind.....I can see you in the big ass dress with a hoop slip
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:44 AM
My "recovery" shake is 8 oz water/1 scoop betagen/1 scoop L-Glutamine/1/2 scoop Cytovol
At night I make it with 1 Cup milk instead of water and blend it in the blender with 1 scoop vanilla protein and 6 ice cubes - it taste just like a Orange Dreamsicle!!! Yummmy!
During the day I take CLA 2 with meals 3 times a day and I take the Thermo Dynamx twice a day at 10am and 3pm.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:45 AM
Ummmm.yeah....NO....do big hoopy things for this girl!
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 10:46 AM
recent studies show glutamine isnt all that it was thought to be...do you honestly feel a difference using glutamine? I never did
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:48 AM
I feel a difference with my supplementation...less bloating because less betagen...but Im not sure which of the 3 Cytovol/Betagen/Glutamine are helping the most, but they ARE helping because I was getting SO sore that I almost couldn't do my next workout when it was time!
Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (100 posts) at 11:15 AM
Naked women to glutamine....is there a connection? Hmmmm
Tigermuscle: the studies on glutamine were subject to criticism because it was thought that the subjects didn't workout hard enough. So, in some since, glutamine is not beneficial if the exercise isn't strenuous enough.
Naked women! (there we're back on topic)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 11:17 AM
Well my exercise is VERY strenous thats for sure...and sorry NUTZ we aren't playing anymore....we are being critized and ridiculed by others on the site...so we are dropping the subject! Sorry!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:18 AM
I think glutamine is connected with naked women. Along with Betagen, etc., etc.
Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (100 posts) at 11:20 AM
that's okay. This site is distracting enough with the "legitimate" threads. I'd be completely useless if the original thread were continued.
Body for Life Forum Message by nutz (100 posts) at 11:22 AM
BTW. Ya'll are funny.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 11:25 AM
Wish everyone else get see the humor.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:22 AM
just trying to get something started..........it could actually work
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:26 AM
Ha...they responded to MINE first! I win!
Body for Life Forum Message by Tmbrwolf (12 posts) at 09:33 AM
Agent 69 said:
just trying to get something started..........it could actually work
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:34 AM
is that Mr. Wolf ????
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 09:37 AM
so now you have our attention...now what?
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 09:45 AM
ow, I wonder if a big, bad preceeds the Wolf part?
Body for Life Forum Message by Tmbrwolf (12 posts) at 09:34 AM
I think I messed up....
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 09:35 AM
What did you do?
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 09:55 AM
I'm going to name names here because frankly I don't give a flying fuck what people think or say about me.
Mellie, Agent 69 --- you "ladies" have no dignity. You pant after these guys like you haven't had sex in a veryyyyy long time. Go get laid and leave it off the message boards. I am going to speak for the masses here, WE DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT IT!!
Modellawyer --- glad you are enjoying all the attention you are getting. Stop soliciting women for naked pics. I don't know what sick plan you have for them but I think it's pretty pathetic.
I understand that BFL has got you all horned up and that I could choose to put you all on ignore and not read one more stupid assinine comment from any of you...but the problem that I have is that you all make Tracker look bad. Any new people just starting out on here are going to be totally turned off by your antics.
When I opened tracker this morning...the top 3 threads were created by you people and none of them are Fitness related.
I am not a prude. Hell, I met my man in a BFL chat room. There was a group of us that liked to tackle the more risque topics so we would create a room on yahoo chat and have at it.
I would suggest you all do the same.
*puts neck on chopping block and waits for the fur to fly*
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:00 AM
personally, I do post responses to the motivational, inspirational threads/topics.
I have gotten alot out of tracker, and put alot back into it. As most of of us have.
Everyone wants a littel downtime, and that all this is.
Sorry you were offended !
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 10:08 AM
I do have to admit I love the posts that really pump me up and get my inspired, but every now and then I dont see anything wrong with blowing off a little steam, and lossening the workout gloves a little to have some fun..its all harmless isnt it?
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 10:15 AM
Please dont forget amodellawyer. He was the instigator of the original thread.
Im not sure if I have ever seen him post anything fitness related on here.
Body for Life Forum Message by anavywife (151 posts) at 10:15 AM
I think it is a bit distasteful personally, but thats my opinion and am not forcing it upon anyone else. I can see relaxing and having some fun but at the same time I get annoyed to see threads advertising naked women. I dont know how the new people feel about this but I know if I was a newcomer, I might not want to return to the site after seeing something like that. I come here looking for inspiration and motivation...nothing else. This is by no means condemning you all for loosening up and enjoying yourselves, heck I dont even want to open up the thread, but maybe it could be done in the chat room instead of on the message board?? Just a few thoughts, not intending to offend.
Crystal
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:15 AM
"Flying Fuck" what a classy, dignified lady YOU ARE!
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 10:16 AM
I am all for having some fun on here. Hell the penis and vagina threads were a riot. For me it crossed the line when it became about one group of people horning all over each other and talking about meeting for sex in hotels on their lunch breaks. Then GymBeamin' getting upset because someone used her real name in a reply. The tone has gotten icky and sleazy.
One of my friends was solicited for naked pics in a PM.
I'm sorry but I have to draw a line on this kind of crap and that did it for me.
Agent 69 -- apology accepted. You have made some great supportive replies to peoples posts and I am sure they appreciated them.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 10:17 AM
The off topic threads need to be removed from the homepage.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:24 AM
"as I recall".....Gymbeamin didn't get upset because her real name was used, she simply asked that it not be.
Ya know, really, it is funny. And for those who do not find it amusing; don't read it, don't post to it, go find another thread. And I'm saying that in the best possible way.
If I see a thread that I don't like the topic of or the content of; I move one on down the line.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 10:25 AM
Mellie---I NEVER claimed to be classy or dignified...however I do have the decency and enough respect for other people to keep my sex life to my blog or pm's. I don't feel the need to let the whole world know whose pants I want to crawl into.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (35 posts) at 10:28 AM
I agree with Chuck... They need to be removed... Plus, I'm sure we can get our point across without using profane language. I too am not a prude and I can handle the language, I just feel bad for some of our younger viewers (my nephew and niece from another state seeing my transformation)and some of our older friends using this site as pure motivation. A topic like "Crossing the line" doesn't describe much and the first sentence there is the "F" word... Please use tact. I love using this website and I love refering my family members to use this site for inspiration...
-Ed-
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:30 AM
I don't let the whole world know either, these guys we play with and have FUN with are hundreds of miles away, do you understand that? Do you clearly see that we are not CRAWLING into their pants...we are comfortable in our sexuality....we are humans, it is natural to flirt and want to be flirted with....to tease and to be teased....to let loose and maybe be someone you are not but that you wish you were more like!
I am glad that you NEVER made that claim (LOL)...
Like 69 said, if you don't like it don't read it...it is OFF-TOPIC and clearly states that it is not BFL related....so if you don't like it DON'T GO THERE and quit trying to ruin everyones day! I warned people in the title...have you read it? Its just a place where we get together and talk and WE know who WE are....we haven't even started getting risque yet..just harmless playing so get a life would ya! Geez...maybe you need to get laid...I know its not a problem for me!
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 10:32 AM
um....how was everyone's workout today? ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (146 posts) at 10:33 AM
chuckdiesel99 said:
Please dont forget amodellawyer. He was the instigator of the original thread. Im not sure if I have ever seen him post anything fitness related on here.
Search my posts, Chuck. I have indeed posted my advice on several fitness and diet related threads. Granted most of my posts have occurred in the off-topic and possibly offensive threads. But that's just because those seem to be the only threads that are relplied to regularly. Yes I was the instigator of the original thread, but it was all meant in fun. I posted it on the off-topic link and I never planned for it to get carried out as far as it did. I apologize for actually being able to have some fun with myself. I will do myself to be an uptight prude in the future...no promises on that on though. Finally I second what has already been said numerous times, if you don't like the subject matter stay away from the thread. It's right there in the subject line. You don't even have to open it. You're more than entitled to protet your innocent sensitivities.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:34 AM
I had a GREAT cardio session this morning and felt great...still do..Im not going to let anything, or anyone bring me down! How are you doin' tiger? Wife behaving lately?
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 10:39 AM
To tell you the truth, I work in a very stressful environment, This is the only internet item that I have constantly open. Sometimes it is a good thing to laugh and have fun for a few moments in a day. that's all it is is harmless fun btween anoymous people. We have fun with each other whether we are sharing support or a little more risque. I have fun regardless.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 10:42 AM
How do you think a person who is new to tracker would feel if they innocently opened a thread and read about who has naked pictures of who????
What impression do you think they would get of this site?????
I am not trying to ruin anyone's fun. Have your fun, but when it starts to get to the point where you are talking about naked pics of each other...TAKE IT TO PM!
Is that too much to ask??????
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 10:45 AM
amodellawyer: Like Ive said before Im all for having fun. BUT this is a BFL site not www.alt.com There's certainly nothing wrong with that site either. It has its place. You wont find people discussing BFL on it though. The same should be true here.
There was a time when there wasnt an off-topic forum on here. Maybe we need to get rid of the whole thing? I think a good first step would be to remove the threads from the homepage. Its a simple SQL query and Ill write it for you webmaster. Just let me know.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 10:45 AM
Well someone new did respond to that thread and they had a barrel of laugh which is what it was meant to do.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:47 AM
they would probably take it the same way that I did when I first saw the Penis thread a couple of months ago.
Wow, not only can I get some inspirations from these people, maybe get some good advice, but it's also FUN here.
Honeslty, that was what I thought.
Body for Life Forum Message by Go4steffie (715 posts) at 10:48 AM
Suzanne, I am glad you posted this thread! I agree with you 100%. I am not a prude in anyway and I am all for a good roll in the sack, but this is a BFL site. It has gone straight into the toilet as far as I am concerned.
Stef
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 10:57 AM
Soooo, lets say I kick butt on my "official"12 week challenge starting Jan 2nd and I actually become a finalist does this mean you won't vote for me?
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer (32 posts) at 11:01 AM
Bottom line - this is supposed to be a BFL site. There are other sites where you guys can congregate to get your laughs.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:03 AM
Mellie, if you make it.....I will not vote for you
my 2nd challenge starts Jan 2 also
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 11:04 AM
Mellie - one of your first posts on here really touched my heart. I can't say whether I would vote for you or not. It would depend on your essay, transformation etc. I would vote for whoever I felt had made the best transformation and who would be best at inspiring others to do the same.
If it were a toss up between you and someone else who hadn't participated in the whole naked pic, panting after modellawyer/kmachate/intenseworkout etc...I would have to say that I would vote for the other person.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 11:07 AM
For everyone that has sent me PM's --- I will reply to you all as soon as I can. I need to get my butt into work.
Have a great BFL day everyone :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 11:13 AM
Speaking of Kmachate, what were you doing replying to his Attention Whore thread....you said:
I double dog dare you :P
Love your sense of humour..you're such a pig
You are funny....that was ok? He started the whole picture thing and YOU LOVED HIS SENSE OF HUMOR....but the rest of us are just low class losers in your book for "talking" about the same thing??? You DONT see any pics on our profile do you???? Man talk about hypocritical!
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 11:29 AM
Gosh Mellie, IMO there is a huge difference between what he did...first the sponge bob pics...then the one with the box. I had to read the thread...click through to his pics...in order to see them. Like I said before, I am NOT a prude. His pics cracked me up.
He warned people they were there...I chose to go through and look at them. I didn't open the thread and see them staring me in the face. He wasn't begging people for naked pics or sending PM's to them either looking for naked pics.
You guys have taken it to the next step by talking about whose naked pics you have. I don't think that is something that I care to read about. Sure I can put you all on ignore...but as I said before...it's not about that. It's about the new people coming to this site for the first time. It's about people on here wanting to refer others to this site who feel that they can't because when you read it at a glance...lately it has been about naked pics and clandestine meetings etc.
I am not a hypocrite. I am a kinky, risque person. I just choose not to air that side of me on here out of respect for anyone new coming to this site. Plus it's a BFL site. There are many other sites I could frequent to talk about that side of me if I wanted to.
As for the penis thread...in my opinion again...it was a whole lot different than what you guys have been doing. The penis thread was a generality. It wasn't a bunch of us panting after one particular penis. TONS of people participated on that thread. If you look at the thread you all have had recently...there is a handful of you participating. The rest of us are rolling our eyes and clicking it closed.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:29 AM
Mellie, I wondered where you were
out gathering dirt (tsk, tsk)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 11:33 AM
That is so funny, you said:
It wasn't a bunch of us panting after one particular penis. TONS of people participated on that thread. If you look at the thread you all have had recently...there is a handful of you participating
So I guess the TONS of you are better then just a few of us....you are ridiculous and I am not going to reply to this thread anymore because you are not worth the time of day it is taking to read or reply to you!
You are a hypocrite anyway you look at it and your OWN words are validating that very fact over and over!
Im done with this
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 11:35 AM
Some very revealing info can be found by clicking the magnifying glass icon below the message. You can get a very, very clear idea of what kind of thread a person responds to, and indeed what kind of person they are and possibly what kind of business they might be interested in. . .Judgemental?? Well, let the facts speak for themselves and make your own minds up!!
Every forum has its peacemakers and its troublemakers but remember the purpose of this forum is to make sure you are encouraged to eat well and do your workouts!! Thanks Moggie for addressing some issues that were bothering some of us. I do believe there is a tracker meet up site for those who are on the look. . .
But please, eat well and don't skip your workout!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 11:41 AM
Hey thanks for pointing that feature out. I never noticed it before.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:42 AM
very intresting......I'd say I'm roughly
50/50
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer (32 posts) at 11:46 AM
Cool, Persephone! That definitely shines the light on some things.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 11:47 AM
I say let some people incriminate themselves. . .
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:49 AM
afterall, we all know what we post to.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 11:50 AM
Wow who needs coffee when you have the BFL OT threads :) Suzanne you ROCK!!
Okay I agree that most people are right in that we need to blow of steam and have a little fun as well with the friends we make here on the tracker but I had not idea there were PM's asking for nude pics going on. I guess that's your business and hey I'm no prude either but I agree when I come on this site and see more new threads in the OT forums than I see in the exercise, support or eating for life forum it tells me that this site is starting to become less a place for BFL support but more of a meat market.
Hey I'm all for sex and talking a good talk but that's why I have the blog and email so I can talk about non-bfl topics if I want. Overall I know everyone is giving a lot of support to folks but I think it's become a bit unbalanced in terms of BFL support vs. sex talk. If you want to talk BFL that's what the tracker is for...if you want to talk sex? Hey these BFL ladies blogs are downright STEAMY and you horny boys and girls would do well to check them out!! Just go to their profiles and click their links and trust me...it's all out there and in the open lol (okay the ladies are gonna shoot me now) but my point is that I came here to get support on my lifting, cardio, eating and beginner troubles. If the topics start becoming more sex related than workout related I start looking for another site because frankly there sooooo many (and frankly much better) sites for sexual stimulation and too very few for BFL support. I'm not saying we need to shut down the OT threads...although it might stop the sex topics from overloading the workout topics, but I think a little restraint in our libidos overpouring into the forum would be a good idea.
Now for those of you who NEED a good site for sexual stimulation I'm sure we can ALLLLLL send you our favorite links/blogs and you'll be MORE than happy with what you find there :)
Much love to all and I hope you all have a great day!!
Jeremy
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (720 posts) at 11:51 AM
Oooh! Good detective work, P! I never noticed that icon before.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 11:52 AM
I think the fact that there are only a handful of you participating in YOUR threads is a huge indicator that perhaps YOUR threads belong in Private Message or on another site altogether...that is why no one is responding on them. YOUR threads make people uncomfortable.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 11:56 AM
Every once in a while not in every single day I will respond to those other threads because it's fun, but the line is crossed when someone PM's another person who is not participating in the topic asking for pic's. I will agree to that, but to put a stop to a little innocent fun every once is a while is asking too much. Even the author of this thread admitted to participating in one.
Body for Life Forum Message by iceskater (236 posts) at 12:14 PM
I agree that this site is REALLY being abused. I came here for motivation and inspiration, not to be surrounded by people who want to talk about sex all day. There are plenty of sites out there that are geared towards sex, so why not take it there instead?
I used to tell my friends and family about this site but now I don't want them visiting a site where most of the topics are risque.
The name of this site is Body For Life Tracker, it is not "Sex For Life". So if you are really interested in risque topics, then create a site by that name and let's keep this site decent.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (156 posts) at 12:14 PM
Of course there is also that "ignore" feature that you can use when the thoughts or writings of a particular person really upset you to the point that you can't take it. I have a few folks on "ignore" and in fact for many of the reasons set out in this thread. Their ideas of appropriate behavior make me uncomfortable.
Body for Life Forum Message by kmachate (619 posts) at 12:21 PM
Here we go again.
And look! I didn't start it!
I have a word of advice for all of you that don't like the OT part.
DON'T READ IT.
YOu have absolutely no right to get mad at something that someone says in here when you willingly click your mouse on a title that you don't think is appropriate, for whatever reason.
Go back to the support, exercise, diet or whatever else part of the forum if you only want to read them.
SHEESH!
Body for Life Forum Message by Trixie (28 posts) at 12:28 PM
I am with you iceskater! Take the trash talk somewhere else.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer (32 posts) at 12:32 PM
i generally do what kmachate has suggested - i don't click on a topic that looks like something i'd rather not read. but i happened to click on the thread about wanting intenseworkout for xmas. i wasn't prepared for what i read there.
after reading the thread i can honestly say that after being out here on tracker for a year, that thread has elevated the "innocent fun" of the OT threads to a whole new level.
Body for Life Forum Message by iceskater (236 posts) at 12:44 PM
Thanks Trixie.........As far as the ignore feature is concerned, I could always use ignore but I am concerned for the people who I recommend this site to. They trust me to give them good advice, not invite them to an online orgy!
kmachate, I know you didn't start it, many times (not always) you have had me laughing in the past before amodellawyer was around but once amodellawyer came on the scene, he seemed to escalate it to another level and now it has gotten completely out of hand.
Now, we are dealing with several people who are smearing trash all over this site. It's like I can't even go to the site without there being at least 2 topics which are risque. That's why I say it is getting way out of line, like Moggie said, crossing the line.
I will say it again, if I really want pornography (and I'm not saying I do), I will go to sites geared towards that, not here.
Body for Life Forum Message by amodellawyer (146 posts) at 12:54 PM
All right, this is the last I'm going to say on the subject. I apologize if I offended anyone. I had no intention of "escalating" things. I'm relatively new to this site and maybe I fell in with the "wrong group" of people from the fet go, but for the msot part I was just trying to carry on the topics that were started. I truly did not mean to incite anything. And for everyone that took my comments the wrong way, I apogize, they were alll purely in fun. I have no intentions of any clandestine meetings or finding a sex partner here. I'm sorry that most of you can not understand my sense of humor. I know it's certainly on the risque side at times, but I feel I've never said anything even slightly inappropriate on any posts that were not labled as such. And back to KMacate's comment. if you disagree with the subject of the post, don't open it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (316 posts) at 01:02 PM
webmaster, do you not have any comments either way?
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 01:04 PM
amodellawyer, like everyone else, has a magnifying glass icon just below his post. Click it to see the history of his posts or anyone else you may not be familiar. . .
IF anyone is looking to hook up with a BFL'er I think there is a special forum on another forum within the BFL site.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 01:13 PM
Folks I'm going to jump in and post another comment here. It's not the content that necessarily bothers me...it's the overwhelming amount of it. There are times that the penis, vagina, sex topics are overwhelming the support topics in the new messages screen when you first log on. Hey guys...I'm all about fun and sex believe me. But I have 2-3 posts that went nearly unanswered a while back because the sex posts were getting all the attention. How would you feel if you had a legitimate need for support on here, came here for that need and found yourself drowned out by off topic conversation? It's like going to the emergency room and all the nurses and doctors are too busy telling joke and talking about sex that they forget about being there to support you. That's the reason a lot of people stop coming to this site.
Again I'm not trying to censor or judge your sexual lives at all...far from it. I'm just saying that this forum has REALLY become unbalanced and people logging in are goign to see a lot more off topic posts upfront than support posts and that might make people want to give up on a healthy lifestyle because they can't find the support they need. Remember this is a support site not a gossip forum. The ignore button only blocks it doesn't help support the folks who need it.
Jeremy
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 01:30 PM
as a matter fact Jeremy that has happened to me before.
I take it for what it is, maybe on oversite, maybe no one has a comment positive or negative so they choose not to respond.
As for me, I reply to all threads I find intresting, fun, innovative, motivational, and yes, down right nasty sometimes.......it's a personal choice.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 01:38 PM
Wow!! With 121 responses since you've registered perhaps you respond to everything!!
I truly hope you find the time to workout and eat properly.
I've had to be very strict with myself and only respond to what I felt was important.
I don't know what to say anymore. I need to get on with planning and working out. It must be nice to be so organised to find the time to post so much!
Wow. . .
Perhaps you should write a guidebook for the rest of us??
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (428 posts) at 01:42 PM
I agree with Moggie/Suzanne.
You can check my history, and yes, I've posted on a penis thread or two. But as someone said, that seemed more generalized, whereas the latest threads feel like an adult (XXX) online dating service. If I were new to thie site and wanted BFL support/info, I'd go somewhere else. Not b/c I don't like sex (I mean, c'mon!), but b/c I'd be looking for BFL stuff, not adult hook-up topics. I would think perhaps this site wasn't the best place for me and my fitness quest.
Yeah, you can ignore or not open topics, which is what I do now if I feel I don't want to read about naked pics, etc. But I'm not new to this site.
Whether I'm totally right or totally wrong, I gotta say again, I agree with Suzanne. I think a private chat type thing might be a great solution for the people mentioned. I would think you'd *want* to keep it between you all. You seem to have a great rapport going! Just not everyone appreciates it.
I know for certain that many people avoid the tracker chat room now b/c they fear it will just be one big sex/swinger fest...which is a shame, b/c we had some great conversations there before. Maybe with mild, *very* mild sexual innuendo...but nothing blatant.
Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (105 posts) at 02:00 PM
Persephone said:
Wow!! With 121 responses since you've registered perhaps you respond to everything!!
I truly hope you find the time to workout and eat properly.
I've had to be very strict with myself and only respond to what I felt was important.
I don't know what to say anymore. I need to get on with planning and working out. It must be nice to be so organised to find the time to post so much!
Wow. . .
Perhaps you should write a guidebook for the rest of us??
Everyone has different lives and different jobs so perhaps 69 is able to post, work out, eat, and do everything else she wants to in life. It does not warrant sarcastic responses such as the one above, especially when this thread seemed to be winding down, and now it is being stirreed up again. I had a very slow period in my job last week so I could post more. However, this week I am back to being very busy so I can only post during a quick 10 minute lunch break and at home after work. Again, everyone is different, and the events in people's lives change often. Hopefully in the future you will be able to find a little more free time. I sure wish I can do that also because I see it only getting busier for me in the next 3 - 4 weeks. Cheers!
Body for Life Forum Message by amkazen (105 posts) at 02:08 PM
Karla said:
I know for certain that many people avoid the tracker chat room now b/c they fear it will just be one big sex/swinger fest...which is a shame, b/c we had some great conversations there before. Maybe with mild, *very* mild sexual innuendo...but nothing blatant.
Well, I have been on the chat room twice recently with jamber and 4achange and we never, ever talked about sex, not even mildly.
We talked about BFL, kids, the military, debt, music, houses, Christmas, religion, Sea World, and I think that was about it.
If people are avoiding the chat room because they think it is a big sex/swinger fest, they are truly missing out. They can always check in to the chat room, see what the conversation is like, and then leave if they do not like the tone, subject, etc.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 02:17 PM
as I've said, the magnifying glass icon is very revealing. . .
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (1978 posts) at 03:09 PM
This is retarded as usual. I don't think the O/T category should be removed. I've been here for about a year now and this is the first time a group had a "rapport" going to this type of extent. Of course I'm gonna be judgemental and open up my big mouth and generally become "unlikeable" again but what I think is the problem is first its this "group", second its not that its just so very offensive to me, its just plain immature and generally UNFUNNY. Okay so call me a hateful bitch.
There was a time when it seemed that everyone participating on this board seemed to be on the same page when it came to exercise/nutrition/support. When it jumped over to the more risque off-topic topics everyone seemed on board there - everyone seemed on the same wavelength.
Ahhhhhhh, the good ole days. What we need is the cool people to be participating more. Karenna suggested a coup a while back - still think its the only option to save this board and still waiting on a leader.
Tracey
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 03:15 PM
Chuckdiesels PM to my apology and I am quoting:
I am deleting his quote, I made my point....Im done with this thread
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:20 PM
How nice of you...
I said from the start to keep it in PM's so thats what I did AFTER YOUR "Sincere Apology" thread. Now you just make me sick.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 03:25 PM
I'm sure...what else could you possibly say to defend your words? Oh well..my apology wasn't because I had lied, misrepresented myself, told a secret (which pm's are not secrects in my opinion) My apology was to those offended by our playing. I apologize and you come on to me.....I think it is you that makes me sick....I am trying very hard to get this place to be positive...but you keep sucking me back in with your hateful words....make me feel like I need to defend myself...well I don't. I apologized, I meant it, and I feel better for having done so....that is all that matters
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:27 PM
LOL. Seek professional help
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:31 PM
just let the thread die
the one we started this morning (and it was all in fun, regardless of what you people think), we let it drop off the board.
we should let the same thing happen here
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:33 PM
Bottom line is that I never had a problem with what you all were saying personally. I thought it should be kept to private messages because im sure some people would be offended. Judging by the PMs I got supporting my comments I was right.
Im a freak, no two ways about it. I said to keep it to the PMs so thats what I did after you apologized. Taking my PRIVATE message public was wrong and you should be banned from this site in my opinon. The webmaster has been contacted.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (1978 posts) at 04:17 PM
If what I think just happened here actually happened then you really REALLY HAVE crossed the line. Is it my understanding that someone did a cut & paste with a private pm & posted it here? Now its been deleted? I sure hope I've misunderstood! If I sent someone something "private" & in confidence & they posted it I'd have to say thats gotta be the absolute lowest thing I've seen here yet. Again, if this is true, remove yourself and if you absolutely just have to be here give yourself a new name - you'll never live that one down.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 04:31 PM
Wow that really is bad form. What's the point of a private message if it's not private? Oh well I guess we've made a point in this thread that something needed to be done and hopefully we're all back on track now.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 04:37 PM
Be careful what you say, especially if you have spent the majority of your day attacking me and then where no one is looking change your tune or I WILL be forced to use it against you! Sorry, but I have to defend myself....I will not remove myself for defending myself...so back off
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 04:40 PM
This is what I hear personally from a number of supporters (I won't give names I protect my friends) But they are right...I have a right to call him out!!!!
"Undelete the PM. Put the PM back. He came on to you, what a hypocrite.
What, if someone sent you a PM calling you nasty names, saying what he was going to do to you, etc., etc., you don't have a right to call them out?"
These are the things I am hearing in private....so what you all do attacking me publicly is your business....You do not intimidate me!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 04:47 PM
Holy crap. I feel like I've just been timewarped back to the 7th grade. Seriously.
I can't imagine what benefit anyone derives from participating in, perpetuating or "defending themselves" against such traumatic drama on an internet board, but hey: knock yourselves out. Because obviously you're getting something out of it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (1978 posts) at 04:52 PM
willowgerl has got an interesting point.
As I said, I've got one year invested in this board so as an "anniversary" I think I'm gonna pop some corn, sit back & relax pour a glass of wine make some toasts and watch this board go down in flames. The show has now begun. Cheers!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 04:59 PM
I'll be joining you Flower, albeit with a huge mug of hot tea and cottage cheese (cos I'm all about livin' on the edge!)
:p
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 05:10 PM
Totally classless to post a Private Message in here regardless of what it said. If someone were to send me a nasty PM that bothered me...I think I would take it up with the Webmaster. It seems that Chuck's PM wasn't even nasty...hell it was a whole lot tamer than some of the junk I have seen you post on tracker Mellie.
Doesn't posting it here violate some sort of tracker code of conduct??
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 05:10 PM
In not sure who it was that PM'd you but I agree. Put the post back up. Im certainly not ashamed of what I said. I was trying trying to keep the game going in private like it should be. I did not attack you prior to your doing this Mellie.
So go ahead and post it up again so the webmaster can see it.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 05:12 PM
Doesn't posting it here violate some sort of tracker code of conduct??
Yes it does, thats why she took it down.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 05:16 PM
Or we could have a good old laugh at the offenders on our BLOGS
Body for Life Forum Message by Lala (616 posts) at 05:34 PM
Well did I ever miss the... ummm excitement around here all day!
3 points & then I'll settle back into obscurity again...
1.I'm sorry it had to come out like this.. but I'm glad that the topic is finally being dealt with in some way.. & from the amount of responses it's been on more peoples mind than just mine.
2. It's sad to see that it's been days like today & huge in-fighting that have driven away a lot of really great supportive & fun people from a place that at it's best can be an amazing source of help, inspiration, & excitement about doing BFL.
3. Not unlike before -I just wish the Webmaster would/ could step in deal with things as they start to unravel-even as adult we seem to need some sort of parental controls or at the very least a damn referee when you get a large group of emotional people together..
I have to agree Tracy.. it's not quite a yr yet for me.. I have a couple of months to meet that anniversary .. but I wonder how this will play out-I wonder will the webmaster finally call it - I seem to recall that was a possibility in the past...
Franky... the whole thing is kinda tiring & draining..
you wanna move over willowgerl?? hopefully there's enought room! ~lol
Flower.. I'll grab us another bottle of wine... we're gonna need it!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 05:45 PM
The best boards I've ever been part of have several 'moderators' who exercise strong control over the board if necessary. While they do set a tone of fun and support, they think nothing of closing down threads or banning people who prove themselves to be nothing but trolls. And you know what? Those boards espouse a very diverse and LARGE group of people who somehow get along at the end of the day, even if they bicker about religion or politics or sex or whatever. Or at least they're experienced enough to know that sometimes the best way to deal with drama is to ignore it. This whole he said she said would never see the light of day and people who post PM's are not well tolerated.
I think the whole internet can depersonalize communications to the point where people lose all sense of decorum and say (or type) things they would never dream of saying in person.
It might serve the future of this board if moderators were to be used.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (720 posts) at 05:49 PM
If y'all are gonna take up so much space with o/t "sexy" conversation, to amuse yourselves or to attract attention in the hopes of amusing others, maybe try to be a little more interesting?
Not more graphic. Not more desperate.
I'm not offended by the subject manner so much as I am the quality of the discussion.
Yes, I'm a snob.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 05:52 PM
Excellent point, Supa K. ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 06:06 PM
Ive been on here about 6 months myself. I come here to help people to the best of my ability. While I dont really follow BFL anymore (I do something called Max OT) I come here to help new people begin their transformations.
I think im going to go hang out at my other well moderated board for a while. Im not going to become a "self removed member" or anything. Just going to take a few days away from the tracker.
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (66 posts) at 06:15 PM
Hope you come back chuckdiesel!!
I must admit, after the recent threads and all this fighting today I'll probably steer clear of tracker for a few days - I've already got enough stress in my own life at the mo.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 06:36 PM
Sportygirl & Chuckdiesel99, We don't want anyone to go anywhere. Everything has calmed down and is back to normal. (As normal as anything can get) There's been these little family spats every once in a while as there a a varied amount of opinions. Life would not interesting or fun if everyone's opinion was the same.
Body for Life Forum Message by jansen (78 posts) at 01:11 PM
Can you tell me what there is around "goodwood" to tour? I will be going in the spring to take a driving school and I would like to also visit other areas nearby. I would love some information if you can, looking sooooo forward to visiting the UK!
Jansen
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 01:28 PM
Would love to help. . .have PM'd you
Body for Life Forum Message by jansen (78 posts) at 01:35 PM
thank you!
Body for Life Forum Message by SportyGirl (66 posts) at 05:19 PM
Sorry, wish I could help but I don't know that area, but it looks like Persephone's got it sussed anyway.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 02:56 PM
I'm tired of all the negative focus on the other thread, so I just want to state this by itself....please don't reply if all you want to do is continue to be negative....I understand the point of view from everyone who has spoken and don't need to hear it again.
But, for those offended I am sorry. I honestly meant no harm...it was just in fun. I honestly didn't think about the affect on others until someone mentioned younger viewers and elders looking strickly for motivation. Granted, they should be looking on the Support or Beginners thread for motivation not OT, nevertheless, I feel bad.
I will keep my risque' conversations private from now on.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:04 PM
Its all good. There's always adultfriendfinder.com too :)
Body for Life Forum Message by intenseworkout (46 posts) at 03:06 PM
No worries, Mellie.
Just keep working hard on your BFL challenge, you're almost finished... KEEP IT UP!! =)
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:08 PM
their not quite so fast as to JUMP on this band wagon, now are they ?
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer (32 posts) at 03:11 PM
Thanks!
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (1978 posts) at 03:12 PM
I've got to check out adultfriendfinder.com - the name alone is hilarious and made me snicker
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:14 PM
Flower, you go girl :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 03:14 PM
Again, I look to the magnifying glass icon at the bottom of your thread. I think your history should speak for itself. Some of us here are really struggling with our weight, our lives, our families . .
At some point, in our jouney for happiness, we realise we have personal power--and this is the best time to help someone else get through the process of becoming healthier and happier. If you have nothing to help anyone, if you feel you can't offer a single word of encouragement, then there other sites to visit. On the other hand, please take our love and encouragment to make your own life better. . .and please, realise you are powerful beyond measure.
Body for Life Forum Message by intenseworkout (46 posts) at 03:15 PM
Hey, this isn't a competition, now!
The point is, Mellie went out and apologized to those that were offended, and that's saying a lot in my book!
You don't have to agree with other people on this forum on the issue, but it's always a wise choice to respect their views...
Of course, that's just my opinion. =P
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:18 PM
Persephone......you know what you can do with your magnifying glass ?
And I mean that in the best possible way.
We do give each other motivation and try to be inspiring to one another.
I have never put anyone on ignore so you just made HISTORY baby
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (316 posts) at 03:20 PM
Mellie, I appreciate your apology and concession... it's hard because people's opinions are so diverse... But as this is an "open" forum provided to us by a webmaster who's intent is that it be used in a supportive, mature way, I think that we all would do well to keep his intent in the forefront of our minds.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer (32 posts) at 03:20 PM
BTW - my thanks was to Mellie for apologizing. That took a lot of guts and I respect her a lot for that.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (156 posts) at 03:24 PM
I guess it's easy to say that they shouldn't be looking on the off topic sites, but many, including me, didn't know when they first came here that these were divided up that way, and you just look at the list of topics, find one that looks "interesting" and open it up. I'm almost 60 years old and there's not much that shocks me any more, but truly, ladies, some of that was so "gritty" that I was actually taken aback by it. Thanks for the apology.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:25 PM
She can take her "Sincere Apology" and stick it up her ass. Take a look at her post about me in the "crossing the line" thread which was written AFTER this.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:28 PM
well, atleast it was found "intresting"...thanks Mike, I always love your perspective.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 03:28 PM
Thanks Mellie!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (344 posts) at 03:36 PM
LMAO @ Agent69
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:40 PM
good, glad I could help you out
Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (915 posts) at 03:41 PM
Hi Mellie,
I for one believe you, and you will have my support :)
Yours in Health,
Kerry
Body for Life Forum Message by sas (12 posts) at 06:39 PM
I found this whole thing interesting...Apparently Off Topic means different things to different people :-)
Nice of you to apologize though.
Cheerios!
Body for Life Forum Message by helpdial911 (5 posts) at 07:14 PM
I am really new here, and never wanted to post a reply to anything or even my pictures in fear of the "click" that seems to be on here.
Thanks for the apology to those of us you don't even know. I have seen people get jumped on here for not being supportive in the whole 'BFL' thing and some or most of the threads aren't supportive either, just people's own agendas for them and their click.
I know Moggie wasn't in the minority with her post, so I feel more comfortable posting now.
Thanks again for the apology Mellie.
I look forward to getting to know everyone on here.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 03:44 PM
so, what do ya'll want to do tomorrow? ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 03:45 PM
LOL Brat! I frickin' love you to death!
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 03:48 PM
Seriously I am choking on my cottage cheese and yogurt and my office thinks I've lost it!
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:52 PM
Im going to get up at 5:50 am, eat, drive to the gym, work my butt off, and drive to work and wait till the weekend.
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 03:55 PM
I beat you then, I get up at 4:45 and work out in my freezing cold gym, tomorrow is UBWO day so I will work my arms so hard I can't do my hair....then I will drive to work, I will start a NEW day and try to have fun (in a reasonable fashion) and maybe even get a little work done! I think they are paying me to do so, maybe I had better start performing!
Body for Life Forum Message by Mellie (374 posts) at 04:05 PM
I lied, tomorrow is leg day....man this day has me all twisted up!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:45 PM
I wanna know.....when did you ever do anything in a reasonable fashion, Mellie?
and chuckie.....I love ya man, c'mon over to the dark side....we welcome everyone.....no sense of humor required
yep....I like to keep the fun stuff going
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (30 posts) at 02:19 AM
havent seen the movie, and never enjoyed Mac Donalds, except the fish of fillet, which now is too oily for me. My daughter is a big fan, actually she loves the toys, and many times buys only to get the toys. I am against wasting food, but when she doesnt eat the food, and races off with the toy, I cant bring myself to force her to eat, knowing its Krap. Take care people, I recently read that even their salads are loaded with fat, and calories. Even a salad from them would equal a good wholesome plate of food. Cant remember exact calories, but it was over 400. Also sickening was the process they use to kill the chickens, literally skinning and scalding them alive....
Now my 10yr old refuses to support them and took the article to school to show her friends that Mac Donalds Is bad...bad people, bad food and bad for the health.
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (30 posts) at 02:25 AM
I enjoy my free day and allow myself some treats...dont go overboard. I normally save it to eat out, or something special. Last free day, we had a brunch and I stuffed, tried to keep it healthier until dessert. I still enjoyed my dessert but was stuffed the rest of the day and at night just had soup. so i guess it kinda evened out. Enjoy the free day/meal, try not to totally pig out
Body for Life Forum Message by Pan (26 posts) at 06:04 AM
I have a free meal and a treat either saturday or sunday.
If i take a free day i cant stop.
What ever your case dont feel bad about it, just get up, brush your self and move on, when you do that you tend to come back harder.
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1512 posts) at 12:45 AM
1200 calories????? you're doing some wrong calculating there. Nobody should be eating that low of calories.
Body for Life Forum Message by Forest Tech (89 posts) at 04:59 AM
yea i think 1200 is kinda on the low side.. I did that before and it didn't get me anywhere.. I think I'm going to change my goal of this challenge to increasing my metabolism as much as I can.. and to do that I'm slowly going to eat more good food and try to get that stupid less calories the better thing out of my head!
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 06:11 AM
Counting calories is essential if you want to know what works for your body.
Try eating 3 days at 500 below and one day at or above BMR * 1.55
Going back and forth every other day would cancel each other out and you would stay the same weight (theoretically)
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 08:32 AM
really? Argh. I did the calcualation off the hussman site and thats what it says to eat if I want to lose 2 pounds a week based on my measurements. I'm going to track BUT I am going back to 6 small fuelings a day. This is ridiculous!
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 08:45 AM
If I remember correctly, Hussmans site has some good information on it but his calulators are incorrect. They fail to take into account your activity level.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 08:48 AM
ACK! I've been following that for 3 weeks! *bangs head on wall* Stupid me why didn't I just follow the book ITS ALL THERE!
Sorry for the explosion...grrrr.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 08:53 AM
I just did his BMR calculator to make sure I was right. It said that I should eat 1380-1900 to lose weight. NO man should EVER go below 1600.
Your BMR is how many calories you burn sitting on your arse all day doing nothing. You have to factor in your activity level or else you risk eating an unhealty number of calories a day.
click here for a good article on calories and how many you need to lose weight. There is a link to an Excel spreedsheet at the botton that does the calulations for you. Read the whole article though, its good information to have.
Dont worry, I did you are doing for about 6 weeks.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 09:02 AM
Oh thank you so much! I don't know how I thought I knew better then the book. What a moron.
Thanks again!
Body for Life Forum Message by sas (12 posts) at 09:52 AM
hey just wondering if you are getting enough protein. there is a great site, www.mybodycomp.com that will tell you how much you are burning based on your measurements and activity level. I am 125 and consume probably about 1500 to 1700 a day with lean chicken, tuna, veggies, and my favorite breakfast fresh berries granola and yogurt. Portions are just the size of my fist and I stop eating when I am full... OK I am Miss Chatty today, still reeling from a HHIT of 8.0 on the treadmill... Good luck:)
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 10:06 AM
way to go!
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 10:31 AM
Holy cow! I have been eating FAR too few calories! Yikes!
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (35 posts) at 10:32 AM
I know Wrecky.. That is what I found out about 3 weeks ago... But be careful when raising your CAL intake.. Do it slowly or you will gain weight.
-Ed-
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:34 AM
just curious, how many calories have you been sustaining on?
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (35 posts) at 10:38 AM
If your talking to me.. I'm not sure the total now.. I quit tracking cals. however, when I realized I wasn't taking in enough in a day it was only about 1500.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 10:43 AM
actually, I was wondering about Wrecky.....said she had been taking in FAR too few calories.
I stopped watching calories a few weeks back, started concentrating on portions, making certain that I have a protein & a carb at breakfast & lunch then a protein & veggie at supper and still watching the midmeals.
My pants are "literally" hangin on me today.
I did a bad thing this a.m......got on the house scale (piece of crap)....it's off by like 13 lbs (shows me 13 lbs. heavier, damn!)....I just deduct 13 lbs. fromt he total......looks like I'm down another 1/2 lbs since Saturday.
Ofcourse, other un-heavals on the home fronnt have a little to do with that too (not too much of an appetite lately).
I'll be fine.....or divorced....we'll see
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 10:58 AM
Ive been averaginng 1150....how stupid of me.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 10:59 AM
SO how much should I be adding...weekly or what...ARGH!!!! SO frustrated right now!
Body for Life Forum Message by Jitter2001 (35 posts) at 11:02 AM
I'm not sure where I read the article.. But check the archives on this site for something... Maybe it was Hussman's website. Not sure.. sorry. Anyway.. I raised my cal intake up in a week.. But just added more protien and carbs to each meal Roughly an extra can of tuna or another chicken breast at those meals.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:17 AM
if you body has become accoustomed to the 1150, I would add slowly, maybe 100-150 a day until your around you ideal caloric intake.
sorry but I didn't see where you calculated your ideal caloric intake for your weight loss goal.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 11:21 AM
I used the hussman site. But when I checked on the site that chuck mentioned it was minimim 1950 that was WITHOUT activity...I am so not bright when it comes to math and all these calculations. Maybe someone can help me. I am 5'4, 194 pounds. I want to lose as much weight as is healthy.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:25 AM
I'm 5'7" and 142 (or so) and I was at 1412 when last I checked or really counted calories
so, that could be right on it
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:26 AM
just keep in mind, if you loose too fast your probably loosing muscle tissue faster than fat tissue
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 11:28 AM
Yes ok. I am SO not a science person! lol!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:36 AM
honey, please......we're all still learning. I'm in week 12 of my first challenge and I am still so not sure of the things I do on a day to day basis.
All I can do is take what I learn today and use it tomorrow
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 01:02 PM
yes you're right.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 01:31 PM
Wrecky, I would say 1900 is a good start. No calulator can give you an exact number because everyones metabolism is different. If you have been eating around 1100 a day yours has been really slowed down. Dont get too upset, you can bring it back up in time.
What I would suggest is eating 100-150 more calories a day for a week every week until you get to 1900.
Example:
Week 1: 1150
Week 2: 1300
Week 3: 1450 etc...
Just take it slow. If you jump too high too fast your body will not be able to keep up and the extra calories could be stored as fat. Slow and steady wins the race. The most important thing is you get you metabolism going again. Dont forget to reevaluate every so often. When you get down to 170lbs you will need less food than you do a 190.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 06:25 PM
THanks for he tip Chuck...I will follow it :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Forest Tech (89 posts) at 06:54 PM
Ah! this is exactly the discussion i needed to see!! i hadn't been about to check this for a while because of exams. Chuckdiesel, I too went to that link and read the article and did up my cals on the excel spreadsheet and it told me to be eating 1780-1880 cals a day to LOSE fat based on a moderate activity lifestyle.. that was great to hear becasue it would explain why the 1400cal i was eating a day was leaving me weak as ever as the week progressed. So i was going to adjust accordingly until i went to Hussman's site and did his calc and it said i should be eating 1350 or so a day to lose fat and that was the ONLY way.. so then i was as frusterated and confused as ever (i know exactly what you are going through, Wrecky!!!!) It is great to hear that his calc is wrong because I really didn't want to have to cut back cals even more!! I already feel like my metabolism is slowing rather than speeding up since I was eating 1400 for the past 4 weeks.. it is unfortunate that i was eating wrong for this long without knowing it! So now i think i will use portion sizes for my 3 week subchallenge and see how that goes. I will track the cals at first just to make sure im not WAAAAY out in left field though. But I too will wean my way up to ~1800 a day.. which should kick start my metabolism, give me a little more food to play with so i don't feel like im a little bird, and give me the energy i need to work out to my full potential! oh and also prevent my late night starvations!! they were getting bad too as the week went on... Thanks for the information everyone! Wrecky, looks like we are going through the same thing here.. i look forward to seeing how tweeking your cals works out for you!! as for me.. my Christmas 2005 challenge will be my indicator...
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 07:15 PM
me too! Glad to know Im not alone...lets get blastin!
Cheers!
Body for Life Forum Message by biffler (214 posts) at 04:07 PM
you could also try using some straps. These will help keep some of the pressure off of your wrists.
A barbell would be a great asset too!
For quads you could rotate in some isometric exercises like sitting up against a wall holding onto something heavy. Each sit should last anywhere from 60-120 sec and build up from there.
for walking lunges, try resting the dumbells on your shoulders and see if that helps.
Body for Life Forum Message by mgbuffgirl (60 posts) at 04:13 PM
Thanks! I do wall sits now but didn't think of using weights to make it harder.
I'll try the lunges idea too.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 04:22 PM
See if you can find a Play It Again sports or some kind of recycled sports shop in your area. Oly bars can be ~$100 if you get them new, I got mine for $40. Those are 45 lbs and I'd suggest getting a few (maybe 4?) 10# plates to start out with. You don't want to go much heavier than 50-60 pounds with a loaded oly bar if you don't have a squat rack to support the weight as you're mounting and dismounting. Not sure how extensive you want to get for your home gym, or how much you want to spend, but NY Barbells has sales on them. If you keep the weightlifting up, you're going to end up needing to go heavier than what working with dumbbells will allow - for legs at least.
And lifting straps should help with the wrist pain. There's a brand called The Hooker (insert bawdy sophomoric joke of choice here). You can order from bodybuilding.com. It actually has a metal hook built into the glove, and that can take a lot of pressure off your wrists.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 10:19 AM
what is a v sit? Sorry...duh.
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 11:32 AM
lie flat on the floor
lift your upper body (like a sit up, just not all the way), then lift your legs, while trying to keep them straight
so that your body looks like a V
hard as hell to do it right unless you have good core strength anyway
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 01:07 PM
Holy moses! Hehe...gonna have to give those a try...did I just say that?
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 01:07 PM
Holy moses! Hehe...gonna have to give those a try...did I just say that?
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 01:52 PM
I hope you have great success with it.
let us know how much you enjoyed them....if you can walk to your computer tomorrow
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 03:02 PM
A few of my favorites...some have been mentioned. I just thought a video would be helpful.
V ups
Inclined hip raise
Straight leg hip raise
More at EXRX.NET
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 07:52 PM
hahah..you are NOT kidding agent 69.
Thanks again Chuck you have been MOST helpful!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 07:56 PM
you like that, huh ???
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 08:01 PM
btw..I am 42% fat. Is THAT gross or what??? OMG!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Shoe (15 posts) at 03:29 PM
Snow is one thing, but I'd avoid running outside if it's icy. It's just not worth the damage you could do. When I run outdoors and it's particularly cold, I find it helps if I pull my collar up over my mouth and nose (or zip my jacket up high and do the same). You'll find it's much more comfortable to breathe frigid air if you're breathing through something.
Keep up the jogging! When I first started, running one minute was DEATH. After a few weeks, I could run 3 miles and still feel pretty good--it can be done! (There's an excellent website called Cool Running that has great runner tips, as well as a plan for training to run a 5K--you might check it out if your goal is to run for 20 minutes straight!)
Megan
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 03:35 PM
One of the guys in my office went running the other day. Unfortantly he slipped on some black ice and broke his leg. He had to have surgery on it. So be careful if your running in the cold weather.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 03:43 PM
I'm such a baby when it comes to the remotest possibility of climatical discomfort. :P But this year I have willed myself to do a some of my cardio sessions outside, and layer. It's not been so bad actually. But I won't do it in windy or icy conditions, either.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jen in Maine (27 posts) at 04:02 PM
Thanks you guys! This morning I used my steps for 5 mins, then grabbed the dog and jogged as far as I could and back, came in and went back to the steps. When that started wearing me out again, I ran up and down them 2 times then did jumping jacks (about 2 per second) for the entire last minute to hit my 10. The last 15 seconds of that was killing me so now I will know I've made progress if I can do that for more than the last minute. It was horrible jogging outside - like breathing ice. But the "triathalon" was really effective so I think I have found my fun way to get my cardio done!
Body for Life Forum Message by wwiddler (1 posts) at 05:29 PM
I have not tried this myself, but am going to soon. A friend uses cleats on her shoes. this site may be of help. http://www.probuy.net/dir/126.html
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (106 posts) at 08:22 AM
My arms where shaking so bad, I got eyeliner everywhere but on my eyes!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 08:25 AM
now that's a workout
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 08:30 AM
Way to go chica!
Body for Life Forum Message by tigermuscle (277 posts) at 08:35 AM
we could turn this into a thread.."you know you have a good UBWO when its easier to lay in the shower and have someone pur the shampoo on you than it is to lift it up to your head!"
Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (216 posts) at 10:48 AM
Nice!!!!!!
Way to Rock, SBF!!!
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 10:52 AM
LOL that funny Tigermuscle.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 11:02 AM
So true Tiger! LOL. Half the time Im thinking...oh hell..I can go to work with this hair. AS IF!
Body for Life Forum Message by Shoe (15 posts) at 03:23 PM
After my UBWO yesterday, I chose my clothes for the day based on what was hanging on the lower bar in the closet. No way was I reaching for anything higher than my elbow!
Body for Life Forum Message by anavywife (151 posts) at 03:26 PM
haha, I had a LBWO today and my legs were so shakey and swollen (mine get that way after a good workout)I picked from the jeans I knew I had already worn...good and stretched out already:)
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 03:46 PM
I can only usually tell I've had an awesome workout the next day...as I'm whining in pain as I try to move. But right afterwards I usually just feel a little numb and tired.
Good job this am, SBF!
Body for Life Forum Message by BFL4Stephanie (100 posts) at 06:33 AM
We've got a handful of these left...stop on by and get yourself on!
Stephanie
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 02:58 PM
Hey, Ang, are you gonna start another challenge right away, or are you taking some downtime?
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (156 posts) at 03:03 PM
Thats awesome girl! You did it! All the best for your C2!
*~Jen~*
Body for Life Forum Message by AngRoCamp (111 posts) at 03:41 PM
Agent69 I'm taking some sort of down time and starting again on December 26th. I was going to start Jan 2nd, but I'm NOT enjoying the down time nearly as much as I expected. But there are so many holiday events that I don't want to have to plan my eating around so I'm not officially starting yet. I am still working out strong and trying not to go crazy with my eating.
Thx for asking :) ~Ang
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (156 posts) at 03:42 PM
Hey I'm starting on Dec.26th too!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 03:48 PM
Ya done great, Ang! Good luck to you in C2!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by shkelly (94 posts) at 03:52 PM
Way to go girl!!! You are doing AWESOME!! It feels great to have accomplished 12wks doesn't it?? And to top it off you have had AMAZING results! I can't wait to see your next 12 wks!!
Shelly=)
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (221 posts) at 07:14 PM
wdrew, Sylvia, thanks for the replies! I posted on this site a few days ago hoping for support.
There have been more replies to crap threads than to mine and, quite frankly, I really needed a pick-me-up and a way-to-go.
I'll be using tracker to track my stats, but will no longer be posting.
If you're interested in chatting with me, feel free to pm me.
Just for the record, it's difficult to convey a person's emotions in email, chat and forums. I am not angry. I'm disappointed. I think some of the OT threads are funny and if I think it's inappropriate, then I leave. No big deal. But, I've come here a few times hoping to get some kind of support and I find my threads get lost in the shuffle of other stuff.
So, I will go where I know I can get support.
Take care everybody and happy BFLing!!
Sincerely, Connie
Body for Life Forum Message by Miss Fit (340 posts) at 07:54 PM
Hi Connie,
I wish I would've seen your thread from a couple days ago. I've wondered where you've been. Sorry to hear your back has had you down and out, but I'm glad things are getting better for you.
Please don't go anywhere - BFL tracker needs you.
xoxoxo, Rachel
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 09:09 PM
Hey Connie :)
Sorry I missed your post. I stopped coming in for a while because I was sick of the crap in here. I decided in the last few days that I need tracker and the people here so I plan to be on here supporting the heck out of people and hopefully I will get some of that in return :)
Drop me a pm if you need anything at all. I still check your blog daily :)
Hugs
Suzanne
Body for Life Forum Message by gymbeamin (5 posts) at 09:14 PM
Oh WAIT.....is this Suzanne Whitt
I thought I recognized you
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (156 posts) at 09:23 PM
Hey Connie I wish you wouldn't go, you will be missed! I wish you nothing but success in the future!
*~Jen~*
Body for Life Forum Message by J Parker (29 posts) at 08:13 AM
Any way that you can recruit your mom to help you by not bring that stuff into the house? I know how hard it can be.
My husband is an ice cream salesman, and I have to contend with a freezer full of Hagen Daz all of the time.
But he has gotten alot better about it after I talked to him about how much it felt like he was sabotaging my efforts.
Janice
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (690 posts) at 08:18 AM
Daisy, everyone slips up from time to time. We are only human. Ask yourself this. Is it better to slip up one day or everyday? Stick with it and dont get down on yourself.
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1174 posts) at 08:22 AM
Daisy, I am so happy to hear things are going better for you!! Just hang in there, and stay strong!!! You Can Do It!!! Keep us all posted, we do care!!!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by NormRebs (175 posts) at 08:56 AM
Daisy, boy have I slipped! Numerous times I had to picked myself back up with the help of everyone here and go forward! You need to just forgive yourself and continue on, trust me it gets easier as you get further into your challenge.
We are here for each other and to help pick each other up when we fall!
Body for Life Forum Message by focusss (2 posts) at 09:01 AM
Daisy, you sound like me. This is my second challenge. My first one went pretty well but my free days were a disaster. This time around I am taking the advice of others here and keeping it to a free meal. Learn from it and move on.. keep it going and show yourself what you got!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by incrdbl*shrinkng*woman (3 posts) at 05:36 PM
I have a 1 1/2 year old daughter, and whenever she falls down, I sing a little song that goes, "Just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again." I think it applies.
You can do it!
Valerie
Body for Life Forum Message by daisy23 (40 posts) at 07:08 PM
I'm feeling down on myself again today. I ate well and worked out but I just don't feel like I'm making any progress. In fact, I weighed after my workout tonight and gained 5 lbs since last Monday!! I should NEVER have done that. I don't know if it's because I weighed at night or what. All day I felt uncomfortable in my clothes. I'm trying to force myself in my old clothes....waiting for them to fit better and it just hasn't happened. I wish I could wear sweats to work. :) I feel like I'm just stuck at this size.
Sorry to complain and be so negative...I guess I just need to vent.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 09:53 PM
Natalie,
You're only in your 3rd week. Most people don't start seeing a major physical difference until about the 8th week. Hopefully you're feeling better internally because you're eating better food and building a better body from the inside out. Remember that it will take time...but...if you keep at it this program will keep you at the size and shape you'll want because of your changce lifestyle...not because you're constantly finding new ways to lose weight. Cheer up...it's going to be okay :)
Jeremy
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (81 posts) at 11:00 PM
Daisy, you need to just stick it out. Who's to say you didn't put on five lbs of muscle? Step away from the damn scale follow the routine and you will be happy with your results. Now lets all close out this thread and start a positive one tomorrow!:)
Body for Life Forum Message by daisy23 (40 posts) at 11:12 PM
well i'm not so sure about 5 lbs of muscle but you're right, I need to stay away from the scales.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 11:20 PM
Scales=evil :)
Body for Life Forum Message by daisy23 (40 posts) at 11:33 PM
But the clothes never lie. ")
Body for Life Forum Message by jamber (883 posts) at 09:39 PM
GO GO GO Jacque!! We're Rootin for ya!!
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (156 posts) at 09:45 PM
You can do it girl! Congrats on the 50lb mark!
*~Jen~*
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (312 posts) at 07:00 PM
Maximum Fitness begins in Jan. It's suppose to be a male version of Oxygen.
Body for Life Forum Message by gp800mark (614 posts) at 07:30 PM
I like Men's Health.
Body for Life Forum Message by SweetEmotion (1068 posts) at 08:21 PM
I love OXYGEN. for women.
Lori
Body for Life Forum Message by lovetorun (77 posts) at 09:15 PM
I love OXYGEN for women too!!!
I want one of those bodies!!
I also like Men's Health and Womens Health. I bought one for hubby and one for me but there were quite a few similar articles in both.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1004 posts) at 10:36 PM
I like Mens Health and Fitness RX and there are a few others.
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (81 posts) at 10:50 PM
I really like Mens Health. I saw a Fitness RX the other day but didn't recognize it, is it new, related to any other publications?
Body for Life Forum Message by dreambig (64 posts) at 11:17 PM
Oxygen!!!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 12:02 PM
well, Ms. Wrecky.......what was the determination ?
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 01:08 PM
Had to work till 11 last night...didnt get around to it. So tonight for sure!
Body for Life Forum Message by 4achange (20 posts) at 01:26 PM
Smaret Calorie asks more info, it gave me 36.2 for Body Fat Percent, 27.9 for BMI and .86 for Waist to Hip Ratio.
The Navy site gave me 34.1% Body fat.
Even though I am a former Sailor...and would love to think the Navy site is more accurate, I think I'm gonna suck it up and go with Smart Calorie.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (152 posts) at 01:29 PM
interesting cant wait to check mine tonite..NOT!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 01:32 PM
I use smart-calorie once a week (same day as I weifgh and take measurements) so everyhting is updated at the same time.
Personally, I think it's pretty right on it......ofcourse, that's just my opinion
Body for Life Forum Message by transformation (37 posts) at 06:57 PM
wow.. i like the navy one... it measures my bodyfat at 17.5 while the fancy scale I bought says it is 21.8 percent. Any idea which could be more accurate?
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 07:19 PM
I have heard that the body fat scales are not very accurate and can vary greatly depending on the time of day that you use them. I think the key is to use one method consistently...ie do your measurements at the same time of day using the same method.
The most accurate method is hydrostatic testing...where they put you in a tank of water.
Body for Life Forum Message by Applegirl (56 posts) at 08:20 AM
God bless all of you that live in cold weather! It is freezing here in Florida! I think I will go to the gym to warmup!
I had my best workout ever yesterday after being on here! It is so nice to chat with people that are in the same mode!!
Let's all stick to it so that we feel amazing in the new year!
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 12:01 PM
I think alot of this "out of workout mode" has to do with the winter months coming on.
It's pretty cold in Georgia (compared to what I'm used to......I'm a summer-time person), and it's more difficult for me to get to the gym when it's cold out.
BUT, I still go
Body for Life Forum Message by Agent 69 (150 posts) at 07:51 AM
he still posts, sometimes
Body for Life Forum Message by BuckeyeBoy (75 posts) at 10:16 AM
I'm here. I'm pretty much gearing up for a big challenge in January. I find it hard to give a lot of advice/feedback when I'm not truly living the BFL lifestyle. I don't want to be a hypocrite! I can't yell "hit your 10's" when I'm eating chicken wings and watching my Bengals/Buckeyes play football. I've been in meltdown/se;f-defeating mode since October, but I'm gonna pull a Schwarzenegger after the Holidays! "I'll Be Back!" To Aussiewen: I saw your recent pics and I was realy impressed. Can you say ABS????? Good day to ya!
Body for Life Forum Message by incrdbl*shrinkng*woman (3 posts) at 05:31 PM
Thanks everyone! How nice to feel welcome!
Cheryl-I have been voting for you, hope you win!
Wrecky-Yes, I am a former weight watcher, but I got the term from another board I frequent.
Thanks again!
Valerie
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 05:48 PM
You did so great, Valerie! Good luck on C2!
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (156 posts) at 03:09 PM
I know you can do it Jim! You are one of my inspirations. I wish you all the best!
*~Jen~*
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (28 posts) at 04:50 AM
The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self-improvement, about being better than you were the day before.
- Steve Young,
Hall of Fame Quaterback
San Francisco 49ers
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (316 posts) at 02:03 PM
Another great one! Keep 'em coming!
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 03:02 PM
Great quote! Thanks :)
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (28 posts) at 03:15 PM
I appreciate the positive feedback. I will endeavor to post a quote each weekday.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by Shoe (15 posts) at 03:18 PM
Good quote, Brian! And holy gosh, you're from Sallisaw?? I'm in Owasso/Tulsa. Nice to see a friendly Oklahoma face!
Megan
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (316 posts) at 03:39 PM
Brian, I think that would be awesome... more of what the tracker needs these days...
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (183 posts) at 03:40 PM
I like that. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by KatieFeld-mom (85 posts) at 05:02 PM
Great quote!
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (28 posts) at 05:04 AM
Last night my wife's work was having a Christmas carnival for the kids of the workers where my wife works. She works at a hospital, which also owns the gym where we work out. The carnival was at the gym.
Here's what I found interesting, all these kids where sitting there eating cookies, drinking kool aid, and winning candy as their prize playing various games, all in the middle of the gym. Mind you, they did not shut down the gym for this event, so there were people all over the place working out as these kids walked by eating cookies.
Perhaps the gym was just insuring its survival by creating a new generation of customers. :) I just found it ironic that the very facility that is suppose to be promoting good health is doing the exact opposite with these kids.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by Darrell (226 posts) at 05:52 AM
Good observation! (Marketing)
Body for Life Forum Message by Kathcandu (166 posts) at 01:14 PM
I have a story too....my gym, on the first Thursday of every month has pizza night. They bring in like 10 extra larges and put them right in the lobby. It's just too bad....
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (555 posts) at 01:23 PM
Seems strange Brian and it's kinda sad. I'm sure the kids had a great time but the message seems screwy.
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (123 posts) at 01:26 PM
Isn't that what Big Tobbacco is doing with Joe Camel? Get 'em while their young? Sheesh!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Forest